Wednesday, September 06, 2006

WHY SHOULD A MORMON BOTHER TO PRAY?

I have considered writing my thoughts and feelings regarding the LDS faith for a very long time. After I stumbled across this web page I have felt an overwhelming desire to put my feelings down on paper. So I have decided to follow the feeling, maybe more to organize my own thoughts than anything else, but I also believe it is important for others who are considering the decision to leave the LDS church to know that they are not alone.

I guess it is important to give a little history of myself. I am 25 years old, I am a multi-generational Mormon. I served a 2 year mission, I served in the mission office as an assistant to the president, I was married in the Salt Lake temple, I am still married. I have held numerous church callings throughout my life, and until recently always paid a full tithing. This is not to say that I have always been a "perfect child". I went through a "phase" as a teenager where I had severe questions as to the reality of God. I questioned all authority. For a short time in high school I would have even described myself as an atheist.

Then I met my current wife. In typical Mormon girl fashion she notified me after a year or so of serious dating, that I had to either straighten up or ship out. She needed to be married in the temple, and if I wasn't going to live my life worthy to go there with her she needed to move on to greener pastures. Well we had a fight over this issue because I was upset that she could not just love me for who I was.

After we fought that night I had what I would still consider to be a spiritual experience. She was sitting in my truck crying as I drove her home, and I looked over at her and something hit me, I just had the overwhelming feeling that I was throwing away the best thing that had ever happened to me. By the time we arrived at her house I had decided that I would give her way a try rather than lose her, but I gave her no guarantees. At this time I was drinking quite heavily and smoking cigarettes. (She never had done any of the above, and it is amazing to me that we ever fell in love, but that is another story!)

Well, not surprisingly, as soon as I started going to church and getting more involved with learning more about the "gospel" I felt an acceptance from her family and from my own that I had not felt for a very long time. This felt good, suddenly my parents trusted me again! (All because I attended church.) And her aunt and uncle and grandparents embraced me. I was accepted! Wow, suddenly all these people liked me. I was part of the norm. My partying friends still stuck by me, but thought I was very delusional. I began to pay tithing, and lived the gospel to the best of my ability. Things were going great. I was reading "church approved" books, and was very naive in not even considering any other alternative at this time. I went and got my patriarchal blessing, which is pretty much a fortune telling session.

But the blessing was a very moving experience, I was an 18 year old kid searching for answers and meaning, and this blessing promised how successful I would be on the condition that I remained faithful to "the church". It was that very night that I decided I had to serve a mission. I wanted to marry my then girlfriend but felt that I would be cheating God if I did not first serve a mission. I did not feel that I deserved the blessing of temple marriage unless I could first prove my devotion to God.

The next thing I know I was sitting in the MTC. I remember thinking that I would not last a single day on a mission because I may slip up and swear. I was also naive in thinking that very small sins would get one sent home from their mission. (I was way off base there!) Anyway, my mission was overall a very positive experience. The only thing I really regret was not knowing more about the church before I left.

I do not feel like I "wasted" two years because I learned a great deal about sales and marketing, and interacting with others, and teaching. I guess I also regret being in the position of "returned missionary" in SLC because it makes it even more difficult to express how I feel about the church now. There is a much higher expectation placed on me now than if I had never served a mission. This is unfortunate in a way because it makes it very difficult to make an honest decision.

The main reason I am grateful for having served a mission is that it made me question what I believed. I sincerely believe that without this experience I may never have looked deeper into church doctrines. I want to relate a pivotal experience for me, this is the experience that I feel caused me to begin to question what I really believed.

My companion and I had been teaching a black man the lessons. He happened to be married to a white LDS woman. We had an extremely good relationship with him. Some of my fondest teaching experiences are from working with John. We were almost through the 6 discussions and things were right on track. He was "golden".

Well one day we showed up to teach John and the mood was quite different. He was laughing and joking as usual but things seemed strained. John said that he had spoken with his mother about the church and that she had told him something ridiculous about the church.

He was laughing like he could not even believe what she had told him. Well after a little prodding he came out and said that his mother had informed him that the church had not allowed blacks to hold the priesthood until 1978. He burst out laughing, waiting for us to join in I'm sure. Then he must have seen the serious expressions on our faces.

He stopped and asked if that wasn't the most ridiculous thing we had ever heard. Then we dropped the bomb and told him that this was indeed true. He began to cry out of anger and rage. "When were you planning to mention this???" He asked. That phrase is still burned in my mind. Then he shouted "I will never join a church that has been racist!" and left his own home in tears and we were left sitting on his couch with his now hysterical wife.

My companion seemed to simply write it off by saying that John did not have the spirit or was unwilling to soften his heart to the spirit. I could not deal with this so easily. I asked myself over and over: When was I planning to mention this important bit of information to him?? After he was baptized?? After he had devoted 10% of his income for a few years?? After he had gone through the temple and made serious commitments to the church?? He was certainly never going to hear about it at church.

We had no plan to ever discuss this doctrine with him. Then I pondered the question, if I were a black person, would I accept this gospel?? Would I worship a God who was racist?? Would I worship a God who "punished" or "cursed" people with "skins of darkness"??? It was certainly an easy doctrine to accept if you were white. But I had never considered it from an alternative perspective.

I talked to my mission president and accepted his explanation. I don't even recall exactly what it was, something to do with "Gods ways are not the ways of man" and that "after I died these things would be made clear to me."
I went on with my mission, this question buried in the back of my mind. After all there are members of the church who are black.


They must be able to deal with it some how, and I was sure I would understand at some point. Well as time went on I must say that I became very proud of my abilities to teach the gospel and to use the Bible against the Protestants in the area. (I served in Indiana) I had a sure testimony of the gospel. I felt that the gospel was bullet proof.

Nothing could affect my testimony because I KNEW it was true. I read church books constantly, I truly devoured information about the gospel. I even ended up needing glasses because my eyes became so tired from constant reading! I would wake up an hour early just so I could get more personal study time. I loved learning about the church.

Well at one point we had an investigator who had been given a copy of the infamous "God Makers" book by a friend. I recommended that she let me read it first so that I would be able to show her the errors of the book as she read it. ( I was not afraid to let anyone read anything about the church because I KNEW it was true and I was confident that I could confound any attempts to disprove the church!)

I stayed up all night long reading this book, I was shocked, I had never read literature written against the church. Some of the ideas in that book really hit home! I was scared. Had I been deceived??? I was in tears, I was ready to call my father and ask him to let me come home.
I prayed and prayed for a testimony to know that this book was not true. Nothing came. But the next day I visited a member who had an extensive library of church books and borrowed the book "The Truth About the God Makers" This book pointed out many of the obvious errors in the original book. And I had also realized that many of the things written in the "God Makers" were just outright lies.


This immediately turned me off to the book because it was easy to discount the entire book if they were willing to promote lies. But it did plant some seeds of doubt. And I began to read more about controversial subjects from "church approved" books.
I spent the rest of my mission doubting the gospel. I kept this hidden, except for in occasional interviews with my mission president I considered him to be a great man, and I still do. And when he told me that someday I would understand, I believed him. I wanted to believe, after all I had many spiritual experiences. I had felt the spirit. So these nagging doubts were just a test of my faith. I was certain that I would make it through this with my testimony still in tact. So I continued on with my mission. Trying to avoid phrases like "I know this church is true" to keep my integrity.


Well I made it through the full 2 years, and consider my mission a success, if only an outward success. I "converted" people to the gospel. I toured the mission doing zone conferences and teaching the other missionaries how to teach the gospel. And how to get investigators to "commit" to the church.

My girlfriend had waited the whole time. I came home and it was as if I had never left in a lot of ways. We began dating immediately, and we already knew we were going to get married. I still had my doubts about the church, but still felt that I would eventually reach the point that everyone around me seemed to be at. That point were I would understand, or at least be able to better accept that my doubts would never go away.

Well I was shortly engaged to be married, we were afraid that if we waited too long we would surely sin and become unworthy for temple marriage. Besides, what was the point of waiting we were sure we were destined to be together. I again ignored my doubts. I caved into a lot of social pressure and went through with a temple marriage.

The temple had always made me feel uneasy, even from the first time I attended. Even though I had grown up in the church I was in no way prepared for that bizarre ritual. I remember my dad trying to warn me about how strange it was and my mom got pretty mad at him for talking negatively about the experience. Anyway I remember the feeling of how cultish it was in the temple, hand signals, robes, strange vows and symbols. Swearing to never talk about it. But again, I was convinced that the problem lied within me and that one day I would understand. After all, many of the General Authorities of the church are surgeons and attorneys, they would be smart enough to get out if this was really that bad, right?

I did not have many of the issues surrounding temple marriage that I have read about on the Internet. My entire family is LDS and my wife's family is also. It probably would have been worse for us the other way around. But again, I did not stop to think about this from the perspective of a father of an only child who cannot attend her wedding because he is not "worthy" or a "member". This now seems very insensitive and insulting to me.

Well my wife and I started out lives here in SLC and attended church and paid tithing and the whole nine yards. I began to have discussions at work and at school with people and found many of my old questions about the church resurfacing. I have always had a bit of the "rebel" in me and often associated myself with "non-members" simply because I was interested in their opinions about life. Not to mention that many of the members I knew were self righteous judgmental and boring. I simply did not care for their company.

Well to make a long story short, I opened my mind and started to sincerely re-evaluate what I believed in. The more I studied about the church, the more I doubted it. (This continues to be the trend!) I came to realize that the things I had a testimony about were not original to the Mormon church. I could still be honest, loving, charitable, kind, industrious, and everything else that was good about the church with out being a Mormon. I then realized that all of the things that bothered me WERE original to the church. Polygamy, blacks and the priesthood, the Book of Mormon and the facts that disprove it, Adam God theory, the whole "we are right and everyone else is wrong" attitude, Mormon prophets contradicting each other, the temple ceremony, The Book of Abraham and the list goes on and on.

Towards the beginning of this search I had a temple recommend interview with a member of my ward bishopric. This was really an eye opener! I frankly discussed my feelings regarding the church. He simply told me that I needed to pray about it more. When I explained that I had prayed and fasted regarding these issues, and still felt that God was telling me that certain doctrines were incorrect, he recommended that I pray some more.

So I guess my question is, why should a Mormon even bother to pray? They already have all the answers in the handy dandy lesson books. And if you should choose to pray about an issue, and find that your answer is not in line with what the church teaches, you can rest assured that it is you who is wrong. And that your answer was from Satan and not from God. So again I ask, WHY BOTHER TO PRAY ABOUT ANYTHING??? Remember..."when the brethren speak the thinking has been done". (that little phrase really scares me now)

I finally came to the realization that I could no longer live a lie. This lack of integrity was literally killing me spiritually. I needed freedom from this organization. This has caused a great deal of stress in my life as my wife and family still strongly believe in the church. I am not strongly vocal about my beliefs, but I also do not hide how I feel when asked. I have decided to be honest about this issue and let the chips fall where they may.

I feel a new found freedom, I do not feel that God gave me my intellect for me to ignore it. And when so much of the church caused me to question I knew he would be disappointed in me for blindly following like a sheep instead getting out of something that I no longer believed true. I don't necessarily think the LDS church is evil, although I am beginning to lean that way, I just do not feel that it is for me. I respect a persons right to believe in whatever they wish. I sincerely believe that if Mormonism makes a person happy they should devote themselves to it, personally it did not make me happy.

Sorry for the rambling nature of this letter, but I felt compelled to write it. I just wanted to share how I feel so that others will know they are not alone. I didn't say much about it but it was a life changing experience when I had a heart to heart with my dad and he admitted many of the same doubts.

Without hearing that someone else felt the same way, who was also a Mormon, I am not sure that I would have ever pursued my "quest" to know whether or not the church was really true. I probably would have only continued to doubt my own spirituality and "worthiness". I do know that it is important to know that you are not alone when you are trying to leave an authoritarian organization like the church.

BETHANY TALKS ABOUT HER CONVERSION TO MORMONISM AND HER RETURN TO THE TRUE JESUS CHRIST

I have always had the ability to remember things from my very early childhood. This special gift has often brought me comfort at times of need, and it has also helped me through the most important decision I have ever made in my life.

I remember as a child learning of Jesus Christ in the nursery at Court Street Christian Church in Salem, Oregon. I remember the songs we sang about how Jesus loved us, and how he cared about every one of us. I have always known that He is my Savior and Redeemer and I have always felt like He has been part of every aspect of my life. I remember those times with much joy, and if I could describe them in simple terms, I would tell you that they were days of sunshine and happiness.

When I was five years old, my mother joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, the "Mormons." She had a friend down the street who got her interested by sending the Missionaries over. My mother started taking us to church on a regular basis, but my father refused to join the church. From that point on, it's like a cloud came over me and blocked the "sunshine" of Jesus' love that I had in my life before the Mormon church.

As a young child, I was taught about church history, I was told that I "wanted" to get married in the temple to a "good Mormon boy who had been on a mission," and that I should have a "large" family because of all of the spirit children waiting in Heaven to come to the Earth. Every Fast and Testimony Meeting I heard the same things, "I know the church is the only true church on the face of the earth, I know Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and I know that President so-and-so is a true prophet. I rarely heard testimonies about Jesus Christ, that He is our Savior(THE SAVIOUR OF GOD'S ELECT - JESUS' SHEEP WHO WERE CHOSEN BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD).

I didn't understand why the emphasis on Jesus Christ was so minute.
As I got older, there were more and more things I found that I disagreed with. I thought something must be wrong with me, because here are all of these adults telling me that the church is true and that they knew it was true. When I would ask questions about something said, I was told not to question the leaders of the church. If I didn't agree with something someone said, I was told that I just had to accept that it was from God and that it was His word. We were to never question or disagree with the leaders of the church.


Over the years I heard more and more things I didn't understand and didn't agree with, and I was constantly battling these feelings. Who was I to question the church? I remember when I was fourteen, a boy asked me if I was a Christian. I didn't know what to reply, as I had been told I was a "Mormon" not a Christian. This stuck in my mind for a long time, and recently I read that Mormons are claiming to be Christians. If they are Christian, why wasn't I taught that I was a Christian before? Is the church wrong now, or was it wrong when it taught that we were "Mormon" and not Christian?

In October of 1988, I married a wonderful man who had just been baptized. We move to a very affluent ward in Atlanta, Georgia, where we quickly felt less than adequate. Each Sunday we were surrounded by members that were driving Mercedes, Porches, etc., and we came in our 1978 Trans Am. After a few months, my husband quickly lost interest in the church and decided to stop attending. He didn't know exactly why, but he felt that something was wrong about the church. I continued to attend over the next seven and a half years, but each Sunday, leaving feeling very empty inside.

I wanted to go to church to be filled with the teachings of Jesus Christ, and instead all I was told was what I had to do to be a "good" Mormon. Since my husband was inactive, I was obviously considered less than perfect, and everyone let me know this.

I had many callings in Primary, Sunday School and Relief Society (a so-called "perfect" organization like the LDS Church), but each one made me feel like I was going against something inside myself. I always felt that church should be different, but I didn't know how it should be.
We moved to Memphis, Tennessee, in 1990, and I found myself less than interested in attending church, but I did it anyway because I have always felt that going was important. Despite the lack of spiritual growth I experienced, I continued to go. Each week though, I felt less close to God, and began to question my own beliefs. I never broke any commandments, or did anything against the church or its teachings, yet I felt no comfort in this.


In March of 1996, I began to think very hard about this, and I decided that I should find out for myself exactly what I believed in. I started reading the Bible, and comparing the Book of Mormon to it. I found 19+ things in church doctrine that I disagreed with, but even with that many things wrong, it still wasn't enough for me to leave the church. I was terrified of the "great doom" that would come to me if I left the church.

It tormented me for weeks, and into months. I finally decided that even though I didn't know why the church wasn't true, that because I felt in my heart that it wasn't true, that I should leave. It was the most frightening thing I have ever done in my life. Imagine, leaving a church would make someone terrified. I finally said a prayer to God, and told him that I was leaving the church because I felt that it wasn't true.

I told him that I didn't know why it wasn't true, but that I could honestly look him in the face and say that I really didn't believe it was true, and that I was putting my life and my faith in his hands.

I wrote a letter to my Bishop telling of my desire to leave the church, and that I didn't want to have anyone in the church contact me regarding my decision. Of course, since I said for no one to contact me, no one did. But, no one removed my name from the church records, either. A few months later I sent another letter to the Bishop and to the Stake President threatening to take it to the local newspapers.

Finally, four months after my initial letter, I called the records department in SLC and received confirmation that my name had been removed.

In the months that followed, I continued reading about the church, and it was if things were opened to my eyes as to the true meaning of church doctrine and the goals of the church, and the deceptive ways that the church is using to "convert" people all over the world.
The following list is just some of the many reasons why I don't believe in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and why I chose to end my membership with the church. Some of the reasons are personal, some are factual.


1. I believe that God wants all of his children to return to him in Heaven, not a select few who belong to a certain church, and practice the things in that church.

2. I believe that everyone who believes in Christ will return to Heaven and that we are all here at different levels of spiritual progression, hence the many churches around the world.

3. I don't believe that people who aren't married in the Mormon temples will be "servants" to those who are married in the Mormon temples.

4. I think that if I do what I think is right and what I believe, that is all I can do besides believe in the saving grace of Jesus Christ.

5. I do not believe in polygamy, which the church teaches will be a part of the eternal plan in Heaven. (In the 80's, seminary lessons included this fact, now, as the church is ever-changing, they claim that information about this hasn't been "revealed" yet. This is from missionaries that I spoke with shortly before I left the church)

6. I do not believe that there was any reasonable explanation for blacks not having the Priesthood of the Mormon church until 1978, except that it is another example of the church "conforming" to fit in with the current times.

7. I do not believe that the Book of Mormon is more important than the Bible. I believe that the church I attend should base is principles on the Bible, which is the word of God.

8. I never had a "testimony" of Joseph Smith, or that the LDS Church is the "only" true church on the earth today. My testimony is in Jesus Christ, my Savior and Redeemer. I used to think that it wasn't important that I didn't believe in Joseph Smith, but as I got older, I realized that the church basically worships the church and Joseph Smith more than the Savior, and that isn't what I want to do.

9. I believe that the members should have say in certain things pertaining to the church and that they should be able to interpret things in the Bible to their own thinking, not be told what to believe on every subject.

10. I do not believe that I will be damned, as a woman, if I am not married in a Mormon temple to a Mormon man, even though I was told as a teenager that I wanted to be married in the temple.

11. I do not believe that my salvation lies in the hands of my husband, and I do not believe that if I am not married to a man in the temple, that I won't return to Heavenly Father.

12. I do not believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of the Lord, because he was into digging for gold, using seeing stones to do so, and he wrote several letters talking about "clever spirits" and using black magic to find gold. He also was a member of the Masons, and was practicing polygamy long before he had the "revelation" that the Lord said it was okay for him to do so.
It was also very convenient to have a revelation telling Emma Smith that she would be "destroyed" if she didn't let Joseph Smith practice polygamy. The Lord has never "threatened" someone to keep his commandments.


13. As I read the Doctrine & Covenants, I found it rather strange that every time the people complained about something, or his wife complained, or there was a problems, Joseph Smith conveniently had a "revelation" that would shut them all up. I feel that it is all a lie.

14. I do not understand why, if the First Vision was the beginning of the church, Joseph Smith did not tell anyone about it for several years, and that it had been changed over the early years of the church.

15. I do not understand why there are so many similarities in the Mormon religion to Masonry, a secret organization, to which Joseph Smith belonged. (i.e. Aaronic & Melchizedek Priesthood, progression to godhood, etc.)

16. I disagree with the fact that the church says to listen and obey the leaders of the church and to never question what they say. I was taught that it was Satan who put thoughts in my brain that were contradictory to teachings of the church. As a teenager, I thought something was wrong with me when I disagreed with doctrine of the church, but as an adult, I know that is wrong. God gave me a thinking, reasoning, brain, and I have the right to question anything and everything.

17. I don't believe that we can become Gods, because there are too many scriptures in the Bible telling that there is only one God, that God is it and that God will be the only God. Besides, I don't want to become a God; God is my God.

18. I don't believe that the Jesus in the Bible and the Jesus in the Book of Mormon could possibly be the same Jesus because of several reasons, one being that in the Bible, when he died, he was very forgiving of the people, and said, "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." In the Book of Mormon, he destroyed millions of people, and there was great destruction of cities and lands. I don't think that the same person would not harm anyone in his lands, but then turn around and destroy whole cities in the Americas.

19. I don't believe that the Garden of Eden was in Independence, Missouri, because in the Bible, it describes where it was, and it could not physically have been in America.

After realizing that there were too many things that didn't make sense to me, when everything in the Bible makes sense to me, that I had to leave. I said a prayer to God and told him that I couldn't be a member of the LDS church anymore because as a daughter of Him, I could not accept the answers I was finding in my searching.

I told Him I was going to leave the church and find a place where I felt that the teachings of Jesus Christ were taught. I felt nothing less than total acceptance and love from Him, and started on my search to find what I was looking for.

My husband also left the church when I did, and we both felt very certain we were making the right decision. Soon after, I began to have doubts pop into my mind. I would think things like, "There really isn't a god," or "Are you crazy, you just destroyed your eternal life." At the same time, though, God told me that it wasn't me that was having those thoughts. I realized that someone was trying to get me to stray even farther from God than I already had when I went to the Mormon church.

A good friend of ours suggested that we start looking for another church that taught the teachings of Jesus Christ. We were lucky and found a wonderful church that we leave each week feeling totally filled with the teachings of Jesus Christ.

I realize that I had been a prisoner of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and that now, after 21 years, am free. Free in the love of Jesus Christ. I had been scared before I left the church, of being lonely, not knowing where to turn for God, not knowing if I was going to go to hell for leaving the church. But, I have never felt so loved and protected before in my life. Jesus Christ has come into my life and given me more than I could ever ask for, His love and grace.

BRAD HUDSON LEFT MORMONISM WHILE ON HIS MISSION FOR THE MORMON CHURCH

I was born and raised in the LDS church. I was a pretty typical "good" Mormon kid -- very active in the ward and in the young people's organizations. I had a very strong testimony, which I shared often.

I entered BYU as a freshman in 1976. I was accepted into a new, experimental program called the honors colloquium. It was an interdisciplinary approach to education, combining subjects that were traditionally taught separately. The professors were definitely "liberal" by LDS standards. One of the first books we read was Juanita Brooks' book on the Mountain Meadows Massacre. The atmosphere was very open, and no subject seemed off limits for critical analysis or discussion.


As part of the colloquium, we were required to prepare a paper as part of a major project. I had heard something about controversies surrounding the Book of Abraham. I wanted to do a paper on the Book of Abraham, and my roommate and best friend agreed to work with me on the project.


To research the paper, I went to the special collections in the BYU library. That was where they kept the "anti-Mormon" literature. Students could not check the material out, probably out of concern that zealous students would destroy it. I also read everything in print by LDS authors on the subject that I could find. I even tried to interview Hugh Nibley, the LDS "expert" on the Book of Abraham, but was rebuffed in a terse conversation in which he told me I shouldn't bother with such things.


We organized the paper by first describing all the criticisms that had been made of the book. We then summarized all the possible explanations and solutions that had been offered by LDS authors. We did no original research -- just summarized everything that we had found.

As we were preparing the paper, my roommate told me that he thought it was very important that we include our testimony that we knew that the LDS church was God's true church and that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. I felt funny doing this, because I wasn't sure it represented a very scholarly approach to our subject, but I agreed. After all, I didn't want anybody to think we were implying that Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet, did I?

As part of the assignment, we gave an oral presentation to our instructors and fellow students. We did it in two parts -- I think the two parts were on consecutive days. The first session laid out the various criticisms and problems. At the end of the first session, the other students were dumb struck. A few were in tears. After the second, in which we presented the possible "solutions" people were more talkative and seemed to feel better. Our basic conclusion was: we know the truth, there are lots of different explanations to choose from, and we are sure there is an explanation out there somewhere.

At the end of the whole exercise, I felt dishonest. It felt wrong to write a scholarly paper based on the assumption that we already knew the answers. In hindsight, our instructors should have called us on the carpet for our approach. If I recall correctly, we received an excellent grade.


In the fall of 1977, I was called to a mission on the Navajo reservation. My best friend received his call at about the same time. We went to Provo together to go through the temple. I was shocked. Nothing had prepared me for the endowment ceremony. This was in the bad old days before the blood oaths were removed. Did my eternal salvation really hinge on knowing some secret handshakes and phrases? Did my church really believe that all other churches were of the devil? I had lots of questions and doubts, but since we were instructed never to discuss the ceremony outside of the temple, I never voiced them. I just clung to the belief that God must know what he is doing, and trusted him.


I spent several weeks in the Language Training Mission studying Navajo. During this time, I struggled with my testimony. I wanted desperately to believe, but found that my doubts crowded in time and time again. Just when I felt I had taken a step forward, I slid two steps back.


I arrived on the reservation at the start of winter. My mission president was George P. Lee, a Navajo who had been appointed as one of the church's "General Authorities." He was very dynamic and inspirational. He constantly pushed us to do our best for God and for the Navajo people. I was thrilled to have such an inspired man as a mission president. I had one personal interview with him that put me on a spiritual high for days.


Being a missionary to the Navajos was often discouraging to me. They treated us politely, would invite us in, would listen to our lessons, and would send us on our way. Even when someone agreed to be baptized, they seemed to drift away into inactivity in a short while. Our records were full of inactive Navajo members. We baptized a few young children and one of my companion's parents. But the conditions on the reservation were very depressing, and I constantly struggled with the question of whether we were doing any good for the people.


In my second area, we lived in a small apartment in the back of a laundromat behind a trading post. The trading post was run by church members, who were very kind to and supporting of the missionaries. They also had a copy of the documentary history of the church, which they lent to me. I started reading it during my scripture study time. I made it through the first five volumes.


The more I read, the more problems I found with the church. I began to realize that the church of which I was a member bore little resemblance to the organization founded by Joseph Smith.

As winter turned to spring, our efforts turned to "placement baptisms." At that time, the placement program was the LDS church's major effort to bring Lamanites (the LDS term for Native Americans) into the church. Children were taken from the reservation into LDS family homes throughout the country to attend school. Many Navajo parents wanted their children to participate as a means of getting them away from reservation and into what they perceived to be a better environment.


There was one catch......to participate, you had to be a church member. So, every spring, lots of children would be baptized so that they could participate in the program. We were told that the previous year there had been 900 placement baptisms. The mission was very gung ho with this program, but there was little discussion of the impact of separating children from their families and their cultural heritage for three fourths of every year.

President Lee gave us a stirring speech on placement. He stressed to us that conversion continues during placement, so we should not hold people out of the program because they weren't really converted. We shouldn't worry about whether they really have a testimony before baptizing them. If they applied and were doing well in school, our orders were to baptize them. If we pushed the program, we would help fulfill the promise in the Book of Mormon that the Lamanite people would "blossom like a rose."


The more I read from the church history, the worse I felt. The more I studied, thought and prayed, the more problems I found with the church and what it claimed to be. I started compiling a list of problems. It became harder and harder for me to go out and teach. When I got to the part of a lesson where I had to bear my testimony (even memorized in Navajo), my stomach would tighten into a knot. I became physically ill and couldn't go out to teach.

Finally, I realized that I couldn't do it anymore -- tell people that I knew the church was true when I had such serious doubts. I felt like I was in a fog, and I didn't know what to do. I wrote this in my Missionary Journal:
I took Wednesday for a huge personal inventory. I went across the little footbridge that spans the San Juan River, took my "problem list" of things that I had found out about the church that disturbed me. I wanted to come to a decision. I was tired of putting up a front. I was teaching things, not only that I didn't know were true, but even had serious doubts about. I was lying to myself, the people and God. That's a crummy way to live.


I had, many times, when I reached the testimony bearing part of a discussion, gritted my teeth and said to myself "Here goes another lie." I was a good actor in high school -- I think the training helped. I could fool everyone -- almost all of the missionaries thought I was strong. Yet I couldn't fool two important people -- myself and God. So -- something had to change -- I couldn't keep going like that anymore.

I sat out in the bright sun, by the river, with the biggest, hardest, and most significant decision of my life before me. One the one side was staying -- a good life in the church, a chance to serve, almost all of my friends, [my girlfriend], the respect of my home ward, my grandparents, BYU, the church values and standards. Then there was leaving -- a loss of all those things, an insecure future ... but also a facing up to all of those questions, doubts and fears and a renewal of integrity that I hadn't experienced in a long time.

I took my list -- prayed hard to God for wisdom, guidance, and courage, and looked carefully at each item. I said to myself "Is this basis enough to discard friends, values, a whole way of life?" I had, I think, 27 items on the list. After three I knew the answer -- I had to go. I laughed and almost cried as the relief and peace flooded into my soul. I stood on the bridge, staring up the river, knowing I was going home, knowing that God would take care of me.

In practice, leaving my mission wasn't quite that simple. I was lucky because my parents were also having their doubts about the church. I called my Dad and told him about my problems. He told me "Just be honest with yourself, do what you know is right." I was getting cold feet and told him I wasn't sure what I would do and told him I didn't need him to do anything yet. After a couple of days I realized that I was just stalling, and called to ask him to drive out from California to pick me up. When I called, I learned that he had left two days before and would be there that night. My mom said that he "just knew to come."


But I was pretty well conditioned by authority, so I was determined to leave through official channels. I called my zone leaders and told them I was leaving and that I wanted to see President Lee. They said to drive down to meet with them, as President Lee was in Salt Lake for General Conference. The mission assistants also drove up to meet with me. I spent two hours talking to them. They tried to persuade me to stay.


They told me that I was going off blindly, that I had no plan. They had a plan. I would be transferred to the mission home, where I would study the Book of Mormon and try to regain a testimony. I couldn't explain all my doubts to them, but simply told them I didn't believe and I couldn't be a missionary any more. They didn't understand.

We returned the next day because President Lee wanted to speak with me on the telephone. The missionaries that had been friendly and cajoling the day before were stone faced and tense.


A definite wall had gone up between us. President Lee called, and my diary records what happened next:
He started with reminding me all that Jesus Christ had done for me, he lived and died for me -- and now I was turning my back on him, and kicking dust in his face. That's what he kept saying over and over -- that I was kicking dust in the face of Jesus Christ. That hurt -- but what could I say?


First, he said he would come right down. Then he wanted me to wait until Wednesday so he could give me a priesthood blessing.


He asked me why I was leaving -- and I told him. He didn't believe me -- told me that that was just an excuse. Wanted to know why. He couldn't accept that I just didn't believe in what I was doing. He said that Satan had led my father away, and through my father was leading me away.


He told my that I was making things worse. He warned me against planning on repenting later, that I was almost throwing away my chance to go to the Celestial Kingdom and become a God.


He offered me every out: a new area, a transfer to the English side [of the mission], a respite in the mission home, a different mission. I turned them all down.

He said "Do you want to talk to President Kimball? Would it help?"

I said that I would -- but it probably would not help.

He asked me if it would help to talk to him. I said that it probably wouldn't (after all, we were talking then).

Events took a definite turn for the worse.


He said "It sounds like your mind is already made up -- before you even talked to me."

I said "I think it is President."

He then said something that still rings in my head -- and will for a long time.

"Elder Hudson, by the authority of the Melchezedic Priesthood, and in the name of Jesus Christ, I command you not to leave the mission. [pause] "And if you do, something will happen."

Stunned, I flatly said "What?"


"I'm not telling you Elder, and I say it in the name of Jesus Christ, Amen"


Click.....


My brain exploded and my soul cried out that this was wrong. This shouldn't be happening. The only things this man of God had used to "persuade" me to stay were guilt and fear. I told the assistants what had happened, and they were stunned. They said I must have misunderstood.

They called President Lee back. I did something he had asked me to do -- I prayed. It only took a couple of minutes, and any lingering hesitation or doubt fled. I was leaving, and there was no question about it.

The assistants came back in and told me that President Lee had instructed them to go on about their work and not attempt to counsel me anymore. We did have a last prayer, and I said a tearful goodbye. My father asked me if I was sure that I wanted to leave, warning me that I would probably be excommunicated. I told them it didn't matter.

President Lee was right -- something did happen.

The last thing in my missionary diary is a newspaper article titled "Mormon Elder Excommunicated." The funny thing is, the article isn't about me. It is about George P. Lee. It says he was excommunicated for "apostasy and other conduct unbecoming a member of the church."


A couple of years ago I drove past the trading post. Well, now it's just a gas station and the laundromat has been torn down. The footbridge is still there, although there are a few planks missing. I looked up the river, and could still feel the peacefulness that filled me when I realized that the church was not teaching the truth, that I didn't believe, and that I had the courage to face the truth no matter what the consequences. The most important lesson I learned from the LDS church is that living a lie is actually a slow, painful spiritual death. It is much better to face the truth and live.


Brad Hudson


- E-Mail: DBradHud@aol.com

Friday, April 28, 2006

EX LDS JULIE ABUSED BY A MORMON BISHOP

Abused by a Mormon Bishop


"My name is Julie. At the time of this writing I am 34 years old. I was born and raised in Utah within the Mormon church. I come from a multi-generational family with deep roots in Mormonism. Most of my family joined at the very beginnings of the church under Joseph Smith or Brigham Young. My husband comes from the same kind of background (TBM) and was raised in the same town as I. We are the only members of our families to leave the mormon church. We have been married for almost 15 years and have a 10 year old son.
I have been "out" of the church for almost 4 years now. Sometimes (for some unknown reason) I want to go back. There is no rhyme or reason to this except that perhaps it's the only religious experience I've ever known or been part of. I know in my head that Mormonism is a cult and is abusive. I need to make sure that my heart realizes that.


There are a couple of things that I would like to share -- to GET OUT of my mind and share with someone so that perhaps I can go on and resolve my conflicts within the church.
The first experience began when I was 7 years old. I lived in Nephi, Utah across from the church. My father was in jail for several DWI's and for domestic abuse against my mother. My mother turned to the church for financial help because she was trying to raise me, my sister, and my brother on her own.


She did have a job at a nursing home, but it wasn't quite enough to cover food. The Bishop agreed to help her, providing that she would clean the church. Just a few light duties: washing the windows and vacuuming, mostly. I was in charge of vacuuming. My mom had a key to the church and I would go over there when she was at work and make sure that it was all vacuumed every Saturday so that it would be ready for Sunday. (Remember, I was only 7 years old.) My experience all started when I ran into a counselor in the bishopric. On that particular day, I remember being very upset because I was constantly being teased by the other kids because my dad was in jail. The counselor sat me down on his lap in the chapel and asked me to tell him why I was crying. He was so kind! So wonderful! This was a man of God wanting to know about ME! I told him everything. I trusted him and was really happy for the attention! I went home that day very happy and grateful for my new friend.

The next time I went to the church to vacuum, the counselor in the bishopric was already there. He asked me if things were better and I told him they were. He asked me if the children were still bothering me, and I told him they were, but it was okay. He took me again on his lap as if to comfort me, but this time his hand rested inside my shorts. As he kept talking to me (I don't even remember what about) his hand kept snaking up toward my private area inside my shorts. He acted like this was very natural, and although I remember feeling anxious, I did not stop him. He touched me where no adult should touch a child that day. I went home feeling confused this time, but I didn't really understand or question it, because, after all -- he was a member of the bishopric.

Each time I went to the church to vacuum for my Mom, my involvement with this man became deeper and took longer. It got to the point where I couldn't finish my job and was always afraid my mom would be angry with me. And she often was! After a few weeks, he was touching my genitals as if it were second nature to him and kissing me often. He also would touch my little girl chest and had me massaging his genitals as well. I was extremely uncomfortable with this behavior, but he always told me that I was "special." And that he loved me like I was his own little girl. I should never tell, because that would break the promises we had made to each other in the church. I remember each time going home and taking long baths until my mother would get home from work. I was constantly getting into trouble with her because she relied on me to babysit my younger siblings as well. They were left to fend for themselves during those hours. Once when I told my mom that I didn't want to clean the church anymore, she told me that if I didn't then I would be responsible for the church taking food away from our family. Did I really want to do that? NO. I couldn't handle it. (I WAS ONLY SEVEN YEARS OLD!)

Shortly after the counselor began "molesting" me, he brought a camera with him (one of those old "Polaroid" cameras) and would take pictures of me in several different ways of undress. Sometimes I would hold my shirt up, sometimes my pants would be down and my bottom would be facing the camera. Several times I was nude. I just kept thinking it MUST be okay because come Sunday, he would be sitting up there on the stand and wink at me once in awhile, or lead the opening remarks and after all, this was a man called of God. If God thought that it was okay, then it must be okay.

Then came the day that I was naked in the Sunday School classroom. I was sitting on his lap and his pants were down around his ankles. He started to push his penis into my vagina. I started to cry. He told me that it wouldn't hurt if I could just relax. He made me feel as if it were my fault that it was hurting because I didn't relax good enough. I don't remember how often this happened, but I do know it was more than 3 times.

Then I turned 8 years old and it was time for my baptism. I was afraid. I memorized my "Articles of Faith" like I knew that I should. (I ALWAYS did everything that I should!) It was time for my interview with the Bishop. I was so afraid to go into his office because I knew from what my Primary teacher and Sunday School teacher told me what he would ask. I knew I couldn't lie. I was so afraid that everyone would find out and I would not be able to come to church anymore. I was afraid that the Bishop probably already knew about what was going on because God surely would have let him know!

After I recited my scriptures that I had to memorize and the Articles of Faith, the Bishop started the interview. He asked me if I had been a good girl and if I felt worthy to be baptized. It took me a few seconds to answer. Then I told him, "No." He asked me why. I told him that I couldn't tell him. Perhaps he assumed that I had stolen some candy from a store or something like that because what he said next surprised me. He said, "Julie, when you come up from the waters of baptism, you will be as clean and pure as the white driven snow." (I remember those exact words as if it were just yesterday.) Well, I felt pretty good about that! It almost felt -- actually it DID feel like I had a 'do-over!'

I was baptized on a Saturday. My beloved Grandpa who lived in Payson (20 miles to the north of Nephi and where I had most of my growing up years beginning at 8 and a half) baptized me. When I came up from the waters of baptism, it felt like my bishop was right! I felt so wonderful and sparkly and CLEAN! Not just on the outside, of course, but on the inside! I didn't feel evil or bad anymore.

The next day was Sunday and back in those days they confirmed you in church after all the babies are blessed. I felt so proud walking up the aisle in my new dress and my long, dark hair in curls. The bishop put out the chair and had me sit down. While he was waiting for others to join the circle for my confirmation, he mentioned to the congregation how proud he was of me. I glowed! This was really my day! The men began to surround me. My grandpa (who was to give me the blessing), some of my uncles (my mother's brother's) and a neighbor. I closed my eyes as they put their hands on my head and my Grandpa began to speak. I opened my eyes a little and looked up. To my horror and amazement, I saw the counselor in the bishopric standing off to the side of me with his head bent and his eyes closed. After seeing that, I began to cry. I think everyone assumed that I was crying because the "spirit" was really with me or something. But I was crying because HE was there. I never felt any spirit or felt the holy ghost or anything I was told I would feel. I just felt anxious and dead inside. In my little girl mind, I believed with all of my heart that the baptism never "took." That I never received the "gift of the Holy Ghost" or was worthy of any of the promises that I was supposed to have as a Child of God.

As if that weren't enough, the VERY NEXT SATURDAY I went to vacuum the church again. HE wasn't there at first, but he came in a few minutes after I did. This time I didn't want to do anything he said, but HE FORCED ME! For the first time, I struggled and he was mean and he HURT me more than ever. I tried not to cry, but I couldn't help it. I wasn't really crying so much because of what he was doing to me, but because I felt that if this were a man of God and he could do these things to me, then God must HATE me. It was that day that I realized that I wasn't special or any of those things that I was taught. That God had turned his back on me and I was on my own. I never prayed again. My "do-over" was gone....

We moved back up to Payson soon after that and away from that church. Away from the counselor in the Bishopric. I told myself that I would never, ever go to the church again, ever. But sure enough, the next Sunday I was there. But this time my Grandpa was sitting next to me, proud as could be that his Granddaughter whom he had just a baptized a few weeks earlier was with him. It was fast & testimony meeting that day and he got up and bore his testimony and talked at length about how proud he was of me and the path that I had chosen. I felt like a liar and a cheat. I felt dishonest and dirty. I was dirt before my baptism and I was dirt after my baptism. I wasn't worthy to be sitting there listening to my Grandpa shower his praise on me. It took awhile, but I finally blocked these things from my mind. But the thoughts that I wasn't worthy and was dirty and that God hated me continued to exist in the back of my little girl mind.

In the meantime, around the age of 9, I started being molested by 2 uncles. (My father's brothers.) It just seemed the norm at that time. I never told anyone. Why should I? I was always threatened not to, but since I was always obedient I wouldn't have told anyway.
Until I grew up, that is. When I was 28 years old, I told my Grandmother (my father's mother) about the abuse that had been heaped upon her by her sons. Her reply was, "I didn't know they had 'bothered' you, too." Just like it was the "norm" to have that happen! Apparently she confronted one of her sons about the abuse. His name was Russell. When I was younger, he was especially violent. His favorite game was taking me to the cemetery and having sex with me in front of his friends.... He always told me he'd kill me if I EVER told and that I would die before I was 30 anyway.


After my Grandmother confronted him about my "stories" he came to my home while my husband was out of town. I heard a loud knock at the door. I didn't look through the peephole. (An action that I still feel responsible for to this day.) As soon as the door opened, he came busting through the door.

I had been cutting up some slices of cheese for my (then) two year old son to tide him over until dinner. Russell grabbed the knife, held it to my throat and after a lengthy struggle which entailed him throwing my baby into his room and slamming the door.... he beat me and raped me. I didn't tell anyone until the next day. My next door neighbors had heard noises (we lived in an apartment complex) but didn't report them. It wasn't until they saw my face that they put two and two together. I let them know "kind of" what happened, but instead of going to the police, we went to our Bishop. The police weren't called in until the next day. (I was too ashamed....) The police just simply took my statement and that pretty much was that. It was his word against mine. Oh well....
My husband, son and I moved to Florida in 1990. We were not active in the Mormon church, but were believers at that point. We were visited by missionaries and started going back into activity in 1992. But every time I would go into the chapel, I would have anxiety attacks. I would look up at the Bishop and his counselors on the stand and find myself unable to breathe. 9 times out of 10, I had to leave. I found myself not going to church because I didn't know why I couldn't just sit still and find comfort in the church. Wasn't I supposed to find comfort being in God's true church? Everyone around me did, but I didn't.


So, I started studying at home instead. I read the BOM several times. I read all the books I was supposed to. It was then that I began to find historical discrepancies, prophecy and doctrinal discrepancies, etc.... I became confused about this. It was also at this time that I came across the book "Miracle of Forgiveness" by Spencer W. Kimball. He had been my favorite prophet and I was always in awe of him. But his statement regarding chastity left me feeling like I had been kicked in the stomach:
"Restitution for Loss of ChastityAlso far-reaching is the effect of loss of chastity. Once given or taken or stolen it can never be regained. Even in a forced contact such as rape or incest, the injured one is greatly outraged. If she has not cooperated and contributed to the foul deed, she is of course in a more favorable position. There is no condemnation where there is no voluntary participation. It is better to die in defending one's virtue than to live having lost it without a struggle."


All of the past came rushing back to me with such a force that I was in bed for days. I didn't struggle for the most part. I did cooperate in most of the cases of my molestations. I didn't struggle much when my uncle raped me as an adult because I feared for the life of my child. Now I knew for sure, even as an adult, that I truly was not one of God's favorites or even worthy to be a member of HIS True Church.

I made an appointment with my Bishop. I told him of the abuse that my uncles did to me. (I didn't make any mention of my questions regarding church discrepancies at this time.) He said all the right words, "It's okay, You are forgiven..It isn't your fault, etc..." Then I showed him what I had read in "The Miracle of Forgiveness." He told me that the book was "outdated" for today and that those words wouldn't stand in my situation. I was again confused. The prophet of the Lord wrote this book, and it wouldn't stand? It was outdated? But I did find comfort in the fact that this Bishop said he would do anything he could to help me rid myself of my past so that I could go on with my life. He and I had a few more sessions until I felt better about things. He did everything he could to help me and I began to rely on his talks with me a great deal. I felt good about my life.

But the anxiety and panic whenever I would go to church would continue. I thought it must be God's way of telling me I didn't belong. The Bishop would insist that perhaps I wasn't "doing my part" by reading the Book of Mormon. That I should study it more diligently. God would give me comfort if I TRULY seeked it... I finally told the Bishop about my experience with the counselor in the Bishopric between the ages of 7 and 8. (Before and after baptism.) He immediately got a cold look on his face and shut off completely. He told me right then that he was unable to help me any further and that he wouldn't be able to speak to me again until I got professional help. I would try and call him at home and he would refuse my calls. (My calls were always a priority before.) I felt abandoned again. I felt alone and discarded and violated. I had shared things with this Bishop that I hadn't shared with anyone and he just plain didn't care anymore. I was suicidal. I didn't believe that God could or would love me if His Bishop couldn't love and accept me. I truly believed that with all of my heart.

In the meantime, my husband watched me struggle through a suicide attempt and loss of faith in my Church and myself. It was at this time that the old bishop was replaced by a new one and I felt encouraged to seek his help. Perhaps things would be different. Well, they weren't. Not even close. I felt disfellowshipped. We had no home teachers, no visiting teachers. And since we had no family around us (because they were all in Utah) I felt so alone.

My husband and I became disillusioned with what we had been reading and the experiences we had gone through. We wrote the bishop a letter asking that our names be removed from the records of the church. We never heard back from him. After several attempts and 4 letters later, (he said he had 'lost' the letters) we received a plain white piece of paper (with no letterhead) from the clerk in our ward telling us that we were no longer members. That didn't satisfy me because ANYONE could have written that! I mean, this was not even an official document! We spent the next few years wondering if we were even members or not.
We have suffered so much. I feel I've lost my identity, my God, my legacy, my heritage, my family's respect, etc.


I wrote to my Grandpa on April 23, 1993 telling him of my decision to leave the church and why. (I left out the sexual abuse parts.) My grandfather was the only person in my life that I felt loved me unconditionally. He never responded to my letter. When we would talk by telephone, it was as if my letter never was sent. I still felt the love and joy in his voice when he would hear mine. I asked him at one point if he read the letter, and he told me he did, but that's all that was said. I knew he was disappointed. He told me that he knew I'd come back when I figured things out. Three months to the day I sent that letter (June 23, 1993) my grandpa died. So did a major part of me. I flew back to Utah for the funeral. My Grandmother (even though she knew I had left the church) asked me to speak. I did. It was hard, but so joyous to be able to share my thoughts and feelings about my beloved friend, mentor, father, grandfather. The only rough spot was my Grandmother telling me that my grandpa was disappointed with my decision to leave the church and felt that I had turned my back on the Lord. This made me angry. I never turned my back on the Lord. (Did I?) Wasn't he the one who turned his back on ME? What my Grandmother said to me hurt me more than if she had slapped me as hard as she could.

So now I am back to here. Here and now. I don't consider myself a Mormon. I am learning what it's like to be on the outside looking in. (Because sometimes I still crave the fellowship I had in Utah as a teenager.) I miss my Grandfather giving me a "Father's Blessing" when I was going through a rough time or ill. But I still have the shame. I still carry the burden of what happened in those secret times in the chapel and the sunday school room in Nephi, Utah with a Man of God. I still, even though I am an adult, cannot put it into a perspective that I can deal with. I have sought secular counseling and have been able to put the abuse that my uncles heaped on me into their proper place and go on. And for that I am both proud and thankful. But this.... this is too big for me to deal with alone. And I don't know how to resolve it.
I realize that Life is a continual process. That maybe someday I will be free. Maybe I will have to die before that takes place. I hope not. In the meantime, I feel like I'm carrying around poison.


That's it. I don't know what else to add. This is a very long letter, but as you can see from reading it, a few sentences wouldn't have helped me or anyone else understand the situation.
I just hope that you can make sense of it.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share this. I think the only way that justice can be done (if there is such a thing) and the only way I can feel like my life has been worth something at all is if my story can help someone else.

Love,

- E-Mail: Julie

Thursday, April 27, 2006

DENNIS & RAUNI HIGLEY - FROMER MORMON CHURCH TRANSLATOR

A Mormon Church Translator for 15 Years and Her High Councilman Husband


About us: Dennis grew up in a LDS family. He was a sixth generation Mormon. His parents were always active, temple going Mormons and the same was expected of him. He never had a problem of believing the Mormon story and he was very happy when he was called on a mission to Finland. He served faithfully there two and a half years. After his mission, he married Rauni in the Salt Lake LDS Temple and started serving in the ward and stake. He was called to be an Elders Quorum president when he was still in his early 20's and he held teaching and leadership positions from there on. He was only in his early 30's when he was ordained a High Priest and called to serve on the Stake High Council. Being busy in the Church and its activities, doing a lot of temple work in addition to his ward and stake positions, took all the free time he had. It was Rauni who started to point out that there were problems with Mormon claims and that they should check them out.

Rauni was a convert to the LDS Church in Finland where she also served a full time mission before coming to the States. She started working as a translator for the Finnish language in the Church Offices almost immediately after her arrival in Salt Lake City. This translation work gave her an opportunity to study Mormon history from many books not generally available to the membership of the Church. She started to wonder, because she saw so many changes in the Church doctrines and contradictions between its scriptures and writings of the prophets and the high leadership of the Church. She was concerned, because it was obvious to her, that the Church was hiding a lot of important information from its membership. She worked as a translator for the Church almost fifteen years. She had teaching positions both in Sunday School and in Relief Society. She also served on the Stake Relief Society Board. But when these problems in the Church doctrine became too much for her to accept, she suggested to Dennis, that they should check them out once and for all and compare Mormon doctrine to the doctrine of the Bible to see if they matched.


This was a serious question, because IF Mormonism was not the truth, then their eternal life and salvation was in danger.
Below we present briefly some of the problems we found that caused us to eventually separate ourselves from the LDS Church.


President Joseph Fielding Smith (President of LDS Church in the early 1970's) stated:
"Mormonism must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith. He was either a Prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen. There is no middle ground. If Joseph was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead people, then he should be exposed, his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false..."


("Doctrines of Salvation," vol. 1 pp 188-189.)
When one reads the above statement, an investigation - through a study of the pertinent documentation - is called for. Historically, the Mormon story is a young one and for that reason alone is relatively easy to investigate.


So let's begin in the year 1820.


Joseph Smith claimed he had a visit from God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ, in 1820. He said that they told him that all churches were wrong and were an abomination to God and that he should not join any of them. He said that when he told his community about God's visit, that it initiated his fierce persecution. Later he said that he received visits from the angel Moroni, who Joseph Smith said was a resurrected being who had died close to Smith's area in New York state about 1400 years earlier. Moroni, Joseph Smith asserted, had buried in New York in the Hill Cumorah a record of his people who had lived on the American continent from about 600 B.C. to about 421 A.D. That record, Joseph Smith was told, would be given to him to translate. Then, a few years later Joseph Smith said that he received the record, written on gold plates in "reformed Egyptian" language that no one but he could understand. He was also told not to show these gold plates to anyone, but that some time later a few selected people would be given the privilege to view them. He said that he then translated the plates and published the material as the "Book of Mormon" and gave the gold plates back to the angel Moroni.


The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints claims that the name of the Church was given to Joseph Smith by revelation. However, when Smith first organized the Church in 1830, it was called the "Church of Christ," then four years later the name was changed to the "Church of Latter-day Saints," then in 1838, it was changed again, this time to the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints", as it is known today. Joseph Smith claimed that he received many revelations from God, and he began to introduce many new doctrines to his new Church; one of the doctrines was polygamy, a practice that Smith denied publicly but practiced secretly. That doctrine was the obvious downfall of Joseph Smith, and he was killed in 1844 as a result of the polygamy controversy.


Now let's go back and look at this above information a little closer and in detail.
Joseph Smith claimed that after he had seen a vision of God the Father and Jesus Christ, he said that he told it first to a Methodist preacher and that it started the entire community, "all men of high standing" and "the great ones of the most popular sects," to persecute him bitterly, him being only a boy of 14 years of age. Wouldn't you think that kind of commotion would have caused someone somewhere to write about it? - At least the Palmyra Newspaper would have written something, since Joseph Smith claimed that "all men" were united to bring a "bitter and reviling persecution" against him. Not many important events took place in that little town, and even unimportant gossip was printed. But one searches in vain from 1820 on to find an account about a young boy's vision or persecution, or to find a story regarding the revival excitement that Smith later claimed was the reason why he went to the grove to seek God in prayer and received this fantastic vision. Joseph Smith said that he was told twice in this vision not to join any of the religions (see "Pearl of Great Price" 2:5-26), but it is interesting to note that in 1823, Joseph's mother, sister and two brothers joined the Presbyterian Church, and later Joseph himself sought membership in the Methodist Church, where his wife was a member. Records show that Joseph was expelled in 1828, because of his belief in magic and also because of his "money-digging activities."


Joseph's newly organized church started to publish its history as events took place. This publication was called the "Messenger and Advocate." Oliver Cowdery was the main writer and its accuracy was checked by Joseph Smith himself. In this publication Joseph tells how, after his brother Alvin's death, and after his mother, sister and two brothers had joined the Presbyterian Church, he started to seek religion and pray "if some Supreme Being existed" (vol. 1 p. 79). IF HE HAD HAD A VISION OF GOD THE FATHER AND HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST IN 1820, HE MOST CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE KNOWN BY 1823 OR 1824 THAT A SUPREME BEING EXISTED. By reading diaries, records, newspapers, etc., one seeks in vain to find any mention of this so-called "First Vision" story until 1842, when it was published in "Times and Seasons," 22 years after this vision supposedly took place. It becomes quite obvious that this report was an after-thought, since the Vision story talks about two separate gods and the Book of Mormon says that there is only one God; and that Jesus, God the Father and Holy Ghost are this one God. Examples: Alma 11:26-33; 18:26-28; Mosiah 15:1, 2, 5, etc. "The Book of Commandments" (now called "Doctrine and Covenants") was published in 1835 and it included lectures given in the School of the Prophets. Lecture 5 says God is a Spirit, and the Son only has the body of flesh and bones. (The lectures have later been removed from the "D&C" but they are available as a separate small book.) There is now an added footnote to this lecture 5, which says that Joseph received further light and knowledge in 1843 and THEN knew that God the Father also had a body of flesh and bones. That statement alone tells that there was no vision of the Father and the Son in 1820. Had there been a vision, he wouldn't have needed this "further light and knowledge" about the Father having a body of flesh and bones. It was not until 1844, that Joseph started to preach about a god who was once a man and progressed into godhood, and how men can also become gods. (See "Teachings by Prophet Joseph Smith" pp. 345-347). Thus, there is absolutely no evidence for the first vision as it appears in the Pearl of Great Price, or that the vision was known to Mormons or non-Mormons prior to 1842 or thereabouts. It was not until the 1880's that this story was accepted by the Church. Prior to that time, we were able only to read denials about it. For example, in "Journal of Discourses," vol. 2, p. 171, in 1855, Brigham Young preached a sermon in which he said:
"LORD DID NOT COME TO JOSEPH SMITH, BUT SENT HIS ANGEL TO INFORM HIM THAT HE SHOULD NOT JOIN ANY RELIGIOUS SECT OF THE DAY, FOR THEY WERE ALL WRONG..."


John Taylor later said the same thing, see J. of D. vol. 20, page 167, on March 2, 1879. Heber C. Kimball in vol. 6, page 29, said:
"DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT GOD IN PERSON CALLED UPON JOSEPH SMITH, OUR PROPHET? GOD CALLED UPON HIM, BUT DID NOT COME HIMSELF..."
George A. Smith told the same story in the Journal of Discourses, vol. 12, pp. 333-334. One wouldn't really even have to dig deeper than that to find out that the claims of the Church today regarding Joseph Smith's so-called First Vision are not true, according to documentary evidence of the time, and Joseph Smith should - and these facts should - be exposed, just as Joseph Fielding Smith said they should.
Now let's look at the Book of Mormon. Early Mormon apostle Orson Pratt made a statement concerning the Book of Mormon:
" 'The Book of Mormon' must be either true or false. If true, it is one of the most important messages ever sent from God... If False, it is one of the most cunning, wicked, bold, deep-laid impositions ever palmed upon the world, calculated to deceive and ruin millions... The nature of the "Book of Mormon" is such, that if true, no one can possibly be saved and reject it; If false, no one can possibly be saved and receive it... If, after a rigid examination, it be found imposition, it should be extensively published to the world as such; the evidences and arguments on which the imposture was detected, should be clearly and logically stated, that those who have been sincerely yet unfortunately deceived, may perceive the nature of deception, and to be reclaimed, and that those who continue to publish the delusion may be exposed and silenced... by strong and powerful arguments - by evidences adduced from scripture and reason..." (Orson Pratt's Works, "Divine Authenticity of the Book of Mormon": Liverpool, 1851, pp. 1, 2.)


We hope to show clearly and logically, even though very briefly in this letter, that the Book of Mormon is not a divinely inspired record, but a 19th century product. Joseph Smith claimed that after he translated the gold plates, he returned them to an angel - so there is no way to inspect them or check the accuracy of the translation. Mormons often refer to the witnesses of the Book of Mormon. Most of these men left the Church, but claims are also made that even though they did, they never denied that they had seen an angel who showed them "the plates of the Book of Mormon." However, in the Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, page 164, Brigham Young stated:
"...witnesses of the Book of Mormon who handled the plates and conversed with the angels of God were afterwards left to doubt and to disbelieve that they had ever seen an angel."
Joseph Smith himself called these men wicked and liars and by many other demeaning names. In the Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, pages 114-115, George A. Smith lists those who have left the Church and mentions specifically, among others, "the witnesses of the Book of Mormon." Martin Harris later claimed that he had a better testimony of "the Shakers Book" than he ever had of the Book of Mormon. Reading about these witnesses, one is drawn to the conclusion that they were unstable men and easily convinced; for example, Martin Harris changed his religion at least eight times. Some of the others started their own religions later.


Let's now look at the Book of Mormon itself. The Book of Mormon presents problems that cannot be explained away. Regarding language: 1 Ne. 1:2, etc., states that Hebrews who left Jerusalem and came to the Americas spoke Egyptian. It is a known fact that Hebrews spoke Hebrew, and their records were kept in Hebrew. Egyptians were their enemies. It is as absurd to think that Hebrews would have written their sacred history in Egyptian as to think that American History would have been written in Russian. In Mormon 9:32, 34, it states that the language was "reformed Egyptian" and that no other people knew their language. There is no known language called "reformed Egyptian." 1 Ne. 17:5 talks about fruit and wild honey being products of Sinai desert (called Bountiful). Not possible! 1 Ne. 18:1 talks about ample timber that Jews used to make a ship. There is not ample timber in that area. It was a desert; it still is a desert. 1 Ne. 2:6-9 mentions a river named Laman that flows into the Red Sea. There is no river there and there has not been since the Pleistocene era. Botanical problems are many in the Book of Mormon. Wheat, barley, olives, etc., are mentioned, but none of these were in the Americas at that time. North America had no cows, asses, horses, oxen, etc. Europeans brought them hundreds and hundreds of years later. North America had no lions, leopards, nor sheep at that time. Honey bees were brought here by Europeans much later. Ether 9:18, 19, lists domestic cattle, cows and oxen as separate species! They did not even exist in the Americas at that time. The Book of Mormon also mentions swine as being useful to man. Maybe, but Jews would not think of swine as being useful or good; swine were forbidden, unclean animals to the Jews. Horses, asses, and elephants were not here either. And what on earth are "cureloms" and "cumoms"? No such animals have ever been identified anywhere. Domestic animals that are thought to be "useful" would hardly become extinct. Ether 9:30-34 talks about poisonous snakes driving sheep to the south. The Book of Mormon tells that the people ate the snake-killed animals, all of them! (v. 34). Jewish people could not have eaten animals that were killed that way, since Mosaic law forbids it! Chickens and dogs did not exist here at that time either. 3 Ne. 20:16 and 21:12 talk about lions as "beasts of the forests." Lions do not live in forests or jungles, and they never lived in the Americas. No silk and wool clothing (nor moths) existed, as 1 Ne. 13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 indicate, at that time either. Butter is also mentioned, but it could not possibly exist, since no milk-producing animals were found in the Americas at that time.


Ether 15:30-31 says that after Shiz was beheaded, he raised up and struggled for breath!!? In Ether, chapter 6, we learn that furious winds propelled the barges to the promised land for 344 days! Even if the winds were not "furious," but, for example, blew only 10 miles per hour, the distance traveled in 344 days would have been 82,560 miles, or more than three times around the world. Absurdity, to say the least! And why would the Lord instruct Jared to make a hole on top and bottom of each barge? (Ether 2:20.) When Lehi left Jerusalem, according to the Book of Mormon, his group consisted of fewer than 20 people. Yet 19 years later the people had so prospered and multiplied in the promised land that they built a temple which "manner of construction was like unto the temple of Solomon: and the workmanship thereof was exceeding fine" (2. Ne. 5:16). Looking at what the Bible says about the construction of Solomon's temple, we find that it took thirty thousand Israelites, a hundred and fifty thousand hewers of stone and carriers, three thousand three hundred supervisors (I Kings 5:13-16) and about seven years to build it. (See also I Kings 6.) And how many people could Lehi have had in his group after 19 years? The book further tells that in less than 30 years after arriving on this continent, they had multiplied so rapidly that they even divided into two great nations. Even the most rapid human reproduction could only have a few dozen in that brief time, and most of them still would be infants and children and about one-third older people.


Not only did they divide into "two great nations," but throughout the book, about every three or four years, they had devastating wars that killed thousands (i.e., Alma 28:2). Starting after the first 19 years or so, Laman and Lemuel and their descendants and followers (!) turned dark skinned because of their disobedience (2 Ne. 5:21). According to the Book of Mormon, dark skin color was a curse from God! This change of skin color is happening throughout the book. In 2 Ne. 30:6 we read that if Lamanites accepted the true gospel, they became "white and delightsome" (and since 1981 printing of the Book of Mormon, they become "pure") but if they left this true gospel, they became "dark and loathsome." People's skin color does not change if they believe or do not believe! Nor is the skin color a curse! The Book of Mormon teaches that Indians originated from these Jewish settlers. Indians are distinctly Mongoloid - they have the "Mongoloid" blue spot, specific blood traits, and their facial features are of typical Asian origin, not Semitic at all. In Ether 7:8, 9, we read of steel and breakable windows (2:23) back in Abraham's time! Try to explain that to an archaeologist! Steel was not even developed until about 1400 years later. At the end of the Book of Mormon, Moroni tells about a great battle that took place on the Hill Cumorah. Over two hundred thousand people, armed to their teeth, were killed on that hill. The story tells about their weapons, breastplates, helmets, swords, etc. Nothing has ever been found on that hill or anywhere else in this continent, as a matter of fact. Metal, helmets, swords, etc., do not disappear in a mere 1400 years. Before the LDS Church purchased the Hill Cumorah, it was literally dug full of holes and even caves, but nothing was ever found. (Joseph Smith even told about a cave inside of Hill Cumorah and how they - he and Oliver - went in and out of it. It supposedly had wagon loads of gold plates, Laban sword, etc.). When people dig for worms in the Holy Land, they make discoveries. The Bible has been proven by archaeology, cities, places, coins, clothing, swords, etc., have been found, but not one single place mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been identified. There are still people in the LDS Church who believe that archaeology has proven, at least to a degree, the Book of Mormon. Some missionaries are still using slide presentations of ruins from Mexico and South America, implying that they prove the Book of Mormon. But they are from an entirely different time period. They are ruins of idolworshipers who offered human sacrifices.


In the mid 1970's, President Spencer W. Kimball made a statement that should have stopped these "faith promoting rumors." The Church News published it and it said to "stop looking for archaeological evidences for the Book of Mormon, for there is none," he said. Perhaps he finally realized that it was too embarrassing to insist on Book of Mormon archaeology since professors in the Church's own University had started to publicly deny that there was any truth to it. Professor Dee Green, in "Dialogue," summer of 1969, pp. 74-78, wrote: "The first myth we need to eliminate is that the Book of Mormon archaeology exists. Titles of books full of archaeological half-truths, dilettante on peripheries of American archaeology calling themselves Book of Mormon archaeologists regardless of their education, and a Department of Archaeology at BYU devoted to the production of Book of Mormon archaeologists do not insure that Book of Mormon archaeology really exists... no Book of Mormon location is known...Biblical archaeology can be studied, because we know where Jerusalem and Jericho were and are, but we do not know where Zarahemla and Bountiful (or any location for that matter) were or are..." Many Mormon scholars have faced the truth and fully agree with Professor Green, but sadly enough, this "myth of the Book of Mormon archaeology" still surfaces from the general membership, who are not updated on these issues. Thomas S. Ferguson was a firm believer and he was sure that archaeology would prove the Book of Mormon. He was an attorney and believed that he knew how to weigh the evidence, once it was found. And a lot of "evidence" was found, but unfortunately for the LDS Church, the evidence did not have any connection to the Book of Mormon story. Thomas S. Ferguson spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and 25 years of his life as a head of "The New World Archaeological Foundation," funded by the Church. But in spite of all the efforts, by 1970, he had come to the conclusion that all had been in vain and that Joseph Smith was not a prophet and that Mormonism was not true. Here was a man who had devoted his entire life, even before starting this foundation, to Mormonism. He had written a book called "One Fold and One Shepherd" in defense of Mormonism, but later he had to admit that the case against Joseph Smith was absolutely devastating and could not be explained away. "The Book of Abraham" was perhaps the final straw for him, as well as for many others who were more aware of the problems in Mormonism.


But there were others, i.e. B. H. Roberts, noted scholar in the Mormon Church and a General Authority, whose secret manuscript has only fairly recently been published, and who had come to question the Book of M ormon quite some time before Ferguson did. B. H. Roberts had written a typewritten manuscript "Book of M ormon Difficulties" of over 400 pages, sometime between 1922-1933, and in it he admitted that the Book of Mormon is in conflict with what is now known from 20th century archaeological investigation about the early inhabitants of America. After going into a lengthy explanation of impossibilities in the Book of M ormon he also says that he has come to discover things he didn't know earlier in his life, for instance, that Joseph Smith did have access to a number of books that could have assisted him and given him ideas for the Book of Mormon. Roberts tells how Joseph's mother wrote in her book, "History of Joseph Smith," that long before Joseph had received the gold plates, he gave:
"...most amazing recitals... he would describe the ancient inhabitants of this continent, their dress, their mode of traveling, and the animals upon which they rode; their cities, their buildings, with every particular; their mode of warfare, and also their religious worship. This he would to with much ease, seemingly, as if he had spent his whole life among them." (Quoted from B. H. Robert's manuscript, page 280.)


Roberts then goes on to say that Joseph could have gotten his information from "knowledge" that existed in the community, because of the books like Ethan Smith's "View of the Hebrews" (published nearby in 1823) and Josiah Priest's book, "The Wonders of Nature and Providence," published only 20 miles away, about one year later. That book had lots to say about the Hebrew origin of American Indians and their advanced culture and civilization. Roberts then asks:
"...Whence comes the young prophet's ability to give these descriptions 'with as much ease as if he had spent his whole life' with these ancient inhabitants of America? Not from the Book of Mormon, which is as yet, a sealed book to him... These evening recitals could come from no other source than the vivid, constructive imagination of Joseph Smith, a remarkable power which attended him through all his life. It was as strong and varied as Shakespeare's and no more to be accounted for than the English Bard's." (From B. H. Roberts' typewritten manuscript, page 281.)


Prior to this, B. H. Roberts was known as a great defender of Mormonism, and he is still considered one of the greatest scholars the LDS Church has ever had. He wrote the six volume book "Comprehensive History of the Church," and many other works as well. "Book of Mormon Difficulties, a Study" is now available in bookstores. There would be much, much more to say why the Book of Mormon is not an ancient record but an obvious production of a very intelligent and creative person, Joseph Smith, who used a number of books, including the Bible, to create this book. Interestingly enough though, not any of the important Mormon doctrines of today are in the book that the Church claims "contains the fullness of the everlasting Gospel." (According to the General Authorities of the Church, "fullness of the Gospel" means that all doctrines leading to salvation in the celestial kingdom are in that book, and one wouldn't even need any other books to find information for salvation.) The Book of Mormon teaches against today's Mormon doctrine, for example, polygamy: Jacob 1:15, 2:22-27; 3:5; Mosiah 11:2; Ether 10:5; (polygamy is not practiced by the mainstream Church today, but it remains as a doctrine of the Church, see D&C 132); eternal progression (that God could have progressed from man to God): Alma 41:8, 3 Ne. 24:6; Mormon 9:9, 10, 19; Moroni 8:18, 23; secret combinations or oaths (temples): Mormon 8:27; 2 Ne. 9:9; 2 Ne. 26:22; Alma 34:36; 37:23, 31. IT TEACHES: that God created the heaven and the earth by His word: Mormon 9:17; Jacob 4:9; that there is only one God: Mosiah 7:27; 13:34; 15:1-5; 16:15; Alma 11:26-33, 38, 39, 44; and no work for the dead: Alma 34:32-33. Doctrines like temple or eternal marriage, priesthoods, etc., are not in the Book of Mormon, and, as we have already mentioned, one can see that this book speaks against polygamy, work for the dead, oaths (temple), men becoming gods, that there is more than one God, etc. It becomes quite obvious to an investigator of M ormonism, that Joseph Smith changed his mind about who God is after 1842 or so. He contradicted the Book of M ormon with the Doctrine and Covenants, i.e.: Alma 34:36, "And this I know, because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples, but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell..." and D&C 130:3, "...the idea that the Father and the Son dwell in a man's heart is an old sectarian notion, and is false"; and the Book of Mormon, Jacob 4:9 "For behold, by the power of his word man came upon the face of the earth, which earth was created by the power of his word. Wherefore, if God being able to speak and the world was, and to speak and man was created...", and "the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," page 350: "...men who are preaching salvation, say that God created the heavens and earth out of nothing? The reason is, that they are unlearned in the things of God... God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all." He then started to teach that his God had once been a mere mortal man, etc.


In November, 1967, when discovered Egyptian Papyri was given back by the Metropolitan Museum to the Mormon Church, it brought a great amount of excitement into the hearts of Mormons. Finally there was something concrete that an "angel didn't take away" that could once and for all prove to the doubting people that Joseph Smith really was a prophet of God and had a God-given gift or ability to translate. We read from the Pearl of Great Price the following introduction to the Book of Abraham.


"TRANSLATED FROM THE PAPYRUS BY JOSEPH SMITH. A TRANSLATION OF SOME ANCIENT RECORDS, THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO OUR HANDS FROM THE CATACOMBS OF EGYPT - THE WRITINGS OF ABRAHAM WHILE HE WAS IN EGYPT, CALLED THE BOOK OF ABRAHAM, WRITTEN BY HIS OWN HAND, UPON PAPYRUS." This papyri was written in Egyptian language and this would prove that if Joseph Smith's translation of papyri was correct, it would be possible that he could have translated the Book of Mormon from "reformed Egyptian." But problems started to surface very soon after the First Presidency had given the papyri to Professor Hugh Nibley of BYU to translate it or to find a translator capable to do so. (By the way, why not the current prophet of the Church? Shouldn't he have done it?) Now, if this papyri was written by Abraham "by his own hand," as Joseph Smith had said, it should be at least about 4000 years old. After this papyri was evaluated, even Professor Nibley had to agree that it was a production of not older than the first century A.D. Thus Abraham couldn't have written it. That was the first blow. The second was that after it was given to several qualified Egyptologists, it was clearly shown not to be what the Book of Abraham said it was. Expectations of the Church members' had been high. Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, one of the most noted scholars, had said:
"The little volume of Scripture known as the Book of Abraham will someday be recognized as one of the most remarkable documents in existence. It is evident that writings of Abraham while he was in Egypt, of which our printed Book of Abraham is a copy, must of necessity be older than original text of Genesis..." (Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, "Ancient Records Testify in Papyrus and Stone" 1938, page 39.)


Now that the papyri had been located and proven by the leaders of the Church and its scholars to be the very one Joseph Smith had translated, the question was: does it read the same as what Joseph Smith's translation said? It was very quickly discovered to be nothing more than a pagan burial record, called the "Book of Breathings," a short portion of the "Book of the Dead." Egyptologist, James Henry Breasted, tells that the Book of the Dead is chiefly a book of magical charms. It was written by a very superstitious people and is quite different from the religion taught in the Bible. Mormon writers have admitted that this is the case. (From his book, "Development of Religion and Thought in Ancient Egypt," New York, 1969, p. 308.) "There has been a lot of things written and suggestions made trying to justify the fact that not one mention of Abraham, not his name, not his faith, nothing at all is on this papyri, only pagan beliefs and instructions on afterlife as believed in Egypt." LDS doctrine on blacks and the priesthood is (was) based on this Book of Abraham. The Utah Mormon Church has not removed this book from their scriptures, but it is interesting to note that the RLDS Church that is directed by the direct descendants of Joseph Smith made this statement in "The New York Times" on May 3, 1970, "...it may be helpful to suggest, that the Book of Abraham represents simply the product of Joseph Smith's imagination..." The RLDS Church removed the book from among their scriptures. The only thing that the Utah Mormon Church did, was to allow blacks (1978) to have the priesthood. But all in all, thinking people started to see that a huge shadow was now cast also on the Book of Mormon.


M ormon writer, Klaus Hansen, made some remarks in "Dialogue A Journal of Mormon Thought," summer 1970, p. 110:
"...To a professional historian, for example, the recent translation of the Joseph Smith papyri may well present the potentially most damaging case against Mormonism since its foundation. Yet the 'Powers That Be' at the Church Historian's Office should take comfort in the fact that almost total lack of response to this translation is an uncanny proof of Frank Kermode's observation that even the most devastating acts of disconfirmation will have no effect whatever on true believers. Perhaps an even more telling response is that of the 'liberals,' or cultural Mormons. After the Joseph Smith's papyri affair, one might have well expected a mass exodus of these people from the Church. Yet none has occurred. Why? Because cultural Mormons, of course, do not believe in the historical authenticity of M ormon scriptures in the first place. So there is nothing to disconfirm."


Polygamy, as we have mentioned at the beginning, was the issue that led to the killing of Joseph Smith. Investigation of the records shows that Joseph Smith practiced polygamy from the early 1830's on. William Clayton was Joseph Smith's personal secretary and scribe until his death. William Clayton's diary has been a source for many revelations published in the Doctrine and Covenants. Clayton's diary tells also how the "revelation" on polygamy came to be. Stated briefly, it came as a result of a discussion between Joseph, his brother Hyrum, and William Clayton, who wrote it down. Emma, Joseph's wife, had been suspecting Joseph of having affairs with other women, i.e., Fanny Alger about 1831 and from then on. Family life was not very happy and calm. Joseph was relating this to his brother Hyrum and William Clayton. Hyrum suggested that Joseph would write a "revelation" where God gives instructions for Joseph to have other wives. Joseph doubted Emma would believe that. However, William Clayton wrote it down and Hyrum took it to Emma. EMMA DID NOT BELIEVE IT. Later on, Joseph somehow convinced Emma to accept it, which she did for a short time, but after Joseph's death, Emma went into a total denial of polygamy as if it had never happened. Many thought that her reasons were to protect her children and their memory of their father.


Utah LDS Church's historian, Andrew Jensen, in 1887, taking from the enormous files of then secret manuscript material in the Salt Lake City Church Library, compiled the first list of 27 wives of Joseph Smith. Genealogical Archives were used to add another 21. Nauvoo Temple records were the main source. Fanny Alger was his first plural wife, married to Joseph in 1834. If one looks at the D&C from 1890, it says that revelation was GIVEN July 12, 1843. "History of the Church," vol. 5. pages 500-501, also says that it was GIVEN that day, but now D&C section 132 says that it was RECORDED July 12, 1843 - implying that it could have been given at an earlier date. This kind of altering of the records of the Church can be noticed quite often by comparing the earlier printings with the more recent ones. Obvious attempts were thus made to save some integrity, since Joseph Smith had made a number of public denials of even knowing anything about polygamy. He and the Church leaders denied it publicly, but practiced it secretly. In the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants, printed in 1835, in Section 101:4, there is denial of polygamy, calling it a "crime of fornication..." This remained in the D&C until 1876, when it was removed, and Section 132 added about God commanding the practice of polygamy.

Joseph Smith (and later Brigham Young, also) were even married to women who, at the time of marriage, were still other men's wives. Historical Records of these strange marriages are available. A few examples might be proper to take here: Prescinda Hunginton Buell, wife of Norman Buell, later also a wife of Heber C. Kimball. She had married Norman Buell in 1827 and they had two children. Joseph married her in the fall of 1838 and had a child by her. She continued to be married to Buell also. Nancy Marinda Johnson Hyde, wife of Orson Hyde, was also one of Joseph's wives. That caused Orson Hyde to leave the Church for a while, but he came back later. Geneological Archives in Salt Lake City show that Nancy Hyde was later sealed to Joseph Smith on July 30, 1857, years after Joseph Smith's death. Zina Diantha Huntington Jacobs, later wife of Brigham Young, was married to Henry Jacobs on March 7, 1841, and seven and one-half months later, to Joseph Smith, on October 27, 1841.


Zina never divorced her husband Henry Jacobs, but after Joseph's death, Brigham publicly told Jacobs: "The woman you claim for a wife does not belong to you. She is a spiritual wife of brother Joseph, sealed to him. I am his proxy, and she, in his behalf, with her children, are my property. You can go where you please and get another..." Jacobs obviously accepted Brigham's decision for he stood as a witness when in the Nauvoo Temple, in January 1846, Zina was sealed to Brigham Young for time, and Joseph Smith for eternity. Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner, wife of Adam Lightner, claimed later that Joseph had told her that an angel came to him with drawn sword, and commanded Joseph in 1834 to take her as his wife. She was then only 17. In her diary, she wrote that she was sealed and married to Joseph in the Masonic Hall in Nauvoo and sealed again in the Nauvoo Temple by Heber C. Kimball. She later came to Salt Lake City and remained in the Church, even though her husband never joined the Church. The reason why Andrew Jensen, in 1887, did this research on polygamy, was to prove that Joseph Smith did practice polygamy, since RLDS Church was denying that he ever did.

When Oliver Cowdery in 1838 had accused Joseph of these adulterous affairs, Joseph had Oliver excommunicated. The controversy over polygamy was the underlying reason for the death of Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum. William Law's wife had confessed that she had an affair with Joseph. William Law left the Church and started a publication called "Nauvoo Expositor." One issue was published and the second one was going to print when Joseph found out that William Law was going to print his wife's confession in that issue. Joseph had the press destroyed and the building burned. That caused his arrest and, consequently, his death. But he did not die as a martyr, as is claimed by the Church. John Taylor, third president of the church, who was in the prison with Joseph and Hyrum at the time, tells the following in the "Gospel Kingdom," page 360:
"Joseph opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times... afterwards (I) understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed, died."


The same account is also in the History of the Church, vol. 6, p. XLI and pages 617-618. It was too bad that Joseph Smith was thus killed, but he did not die like a martyr who went "as a lamb to the slaughter" as is claimed by the LDS Church. HE DIED IN A GUNFIGHT, and killed two people before he was shot. Joseph acted as a Mason at the time of his death. John Taylor tells also that Joseph went to the window and made a Masonic distress sign after his gun was empty, hoping that Masons, if there were any among this mob, would rescue him, according to the Masonic oath "to defend one another, right or wrong."


The M ormon Temple Ceremony compares quite exactly with the Masonic Ceremony, signs, tokens and penalties included. Joseph, Hyrum, Brigham, and others, were Masons. (Cult experts consider Masonic religion to be a Satanic Cult.) Six weeks after Joseph Smith and other Mormons were expelled from the Masonic order, Joseph Smith introduced the Masonic ceremony as the temple ceremony "received as a revelation from God." When Dr. Reed Durham, director of LDS Institute of Religion, made his discovery of this in 1974, and gave his speech on the subject of the Mormon-Mason connection in front of the Utah History Association on April 20, 1974, he was highly criticized for making this matter public. He also showed the Jupiter talisman and explained that Joseph had had it from 1826 (the same year he was convicted on money-digging charges and being a believer in magic), and that Joseph had this Juperter talisman on him at the time of his death. The talisman contains symbols relating to astrology and magic. There were other magical items discovered at the same time that belonged to Hyrum Smith. The Patriarch of the Church, Eldridge Smith, supposedly has them in his possession. (And by the way, what has become of Patriarch Eldridge Smith?)
Teachings of the LDS Church became even stranger after Brigham led the Mormons to the Salt Lake Valley. Now they thought they were free to practice what had been illegal elsewhere... i.e., polygamy and blood atonement.


Brigham Young made polygamy public from 1852 on in Utah, even though they still denied it outside of Utah. From this same year on, he started to teach that "Adam is God and Father and the only God with whom we have to do" and that Adam was the father of human spirits as well as Jesus' physical father. (For these, see the Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, pp. 50-51; vol. 4, p. 1; vol. 5, pp. 331-332, etc.) The LDS Church has issued denials saying that Adam-God doctrine was never taught, but records clearly show that Brigham Young taught it, not only by mentioning it once or twice, but that he taught it from 1852 until his death in 1877.


Let's look at some of his statements:
"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize the world. He is Michael, the Arc-angel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken - HE IS OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, AND THE ONLY GOD WITH WHOM WE HAVE TO DO. Every man upon the earth, professing Christians or non-professing, must hear it, and will know it sooner or later... the earth was organized by three distrinct characters, namely, Eloheim, Yahovah, and Michael, these three forming a quorum, as in heavenly bodies, and in organizing element, perfectly represented in the Diety, as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost." Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, pp. 50-51.


This teaching was repeated and carried on in the other Church's writings throughout the years. For example, in the Millenial Star, vol. 17, page 195, we read:
"... every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that he (Adam) is God of the whole earth. Then will the words of the prophet Brigham Young, WHEN SPEAKING OF ADAM, be fully realized - 'HE IS OUR FATHER AND OUR GOD, AND THE ONLY GOD WITH WHOM WE HAVE TO DO.'"


Further in the Millenial Star, vol. 16, page 530, we read the counsel by James A. Little: "I believe in the principal of obedience; and if I am told that Adam is our Father and our God, I just believe it." The records show that there were only two leaders in the Church who had difficulty with this doctrine, namely apostles Orson Pratt and Amasa Lyman. In one of Brigham's sermons, printed in the "Deseret News," June 14, 1873, Brigham declared:
"How much unbelief exists in the minds of the Latter-day Saints in regard to one particular doctrine which I revealed to them, and WHICH GOD REVEALED TO ME - namely that ADAM IS OUR FATHER AND GOD... Our Father Adam helped to make this earth, it was created expressly for him. He brought one of his wives with him. Who is he? He is Michael... He was the first man on the earth, and its framer and maker. He with the help of his brethren brought it into existence."


"Then he (Adam) said: "I WANT MY CHILDREN THAT WERE BORN TO ME IN THE SPIRIT WORLD TO COME HERE AND TAKE TABERNACLES OF FLESH THAT THEIR SPIRITS MAY HAVE A HOUSE, A TABERNACLE, OR A DWELLING PLACE AS MINE HAS" and where is the mystery?" Brigham Young clearly taught for over 20 years as a doctrine the following:
1) "ADAM NOT MADE OF THE DUST OF THIS EARTH" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 6);2) "ADAM IS THE ONLY GOD WITH WHOM WE HAVE TO DO," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, p. 50);3) "ADAM IS THE FATHER OF OUR SPIRITS" (Deseret News, 14. June 1873;4) ADAM, THE FATHER OF JESUS CHRIST (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, pp. 50-51).Heber C. Kimball, the First Counselor to Brigham Young, also taught:
"I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people, and he is the God that pertains to this earth - THE FIRST MAN. THAT FIRST MAN SENT HIS OWN SON TO REDEEM THE WORLD..." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 1.)


Brigham Young had claimed that God Himself had revealed this doctrine to him. Brigham also had claimed that his sermons were "as good as scripture" (J. of D., vol. 13, p. 166). If that is so, then how can the LDS Church today logically reject his teachings that he said came from his God? - (Who was Brigham's God? Joseph Smith had said: "Some revelations are from God: some revelations are of man: and some are of the devil..." - "Address to All Believers in Christ", p. 31. - Who determines the source of the revelations, the followers or the prophet?) - Further, if Brigham Young was wrong, how can the modern Church accept him as an authority from God? The LDS Church teaches that there must be an unbroken link of true prophets after the restoration, otherwise the authority would be lost.


Contradicting Brigham Young now only proves the incredibility of both the modern Church and Brigham Young, and breaks the link.
One could go on and on about these teachings that clearly show the non-Christian nature of the LDS Church. But let's look now at some of the LDS Church's teachings of today about Adam: In the Doctrine and Covenants 27:11, Adam is referred to as the Ancient of Days, spoken by Daniel the prophet ( in Daniel 7:9-14.) But the Ancient of Days is one of the names of GOD ALMIGHTY in the Bible, not Adam. There is absolutely no question about that! There is also no question that the LDS Church believes and teaches that Adam is that one, the Ancient of Days, who will judge the world. Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, in his book, "Mormon Doctrine," page 34 says:
"Adam is known as the Ancient of Days... In this capacity he will yet sit in formal judgment upon 'ten thousand times ten thousand'..."


In the Temple ceremony, Michael, the Archangel, is one of the creators of the world and he then "becomes" Adam. According to Mormonism, "GODS" created the world, (see Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 4 and 5), Adam being one of them, one of three gods. It is clearly implied that he is God. There are more writings and documented evidence to this fact.


What does the LDS Church teach about Jesus Christ? First of all, it is already documented above that Brigham Young taught that he (Jesus) was a spirit child of Adam and spirit brother of all human kind, as well as a brother of angels, spirit beings, even the fallen ones, i.e., Jesus being a brother of Lucifer. Brigham further taught that he (Jesus) was also physically a son of Adam, who, as an exalted, resurrected being, came to Mary and fathered Jesus. Brigham has emphasized that Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost, as the Bible says. This teaching shows that Jesus of the LDS Church is not "Emmanuel," "God with us;" God, who, according to the Bible (Matt. 1:23), became a man for us, to be our Redeemer. Jesus of the LDS Church is a created being, who also had to be redeemed... But, Jesus of the Bible is The Creator - UNCREATED GOD who created everything, including Lucifer (John 1:3; Col.1:16). Let's look at the modern teachings of the LDS Church: President Ezra Taft Benson said, in his book, "Come unto Christ," page 4:
"...The body in which He performed His mission in the flesh was SIRED by that Holy Being we worship as God, our Eternal Father. Jesus was not the son of Joseph, nor was He begotten by the Holy Ghost. He is the Son of the Eternal Father."


Bruce R. McConkie, in his book, Mormon Doctrine, on page 742, says:
"God the Father is a perfected, glorified, holy Man, an immortal Personage. And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about this paternity; he was BEGOTTEN, CONCEIVED and born in the normal and natural course of events, for he is the Son of God, and that designation means what it says." McConkie, in the same book, pages 546-547, says further, under the heading "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON": "...Each word is to be understood literally. Only means only; Begotten means begotten; and Son means son. Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the SAME WAY THAT MORTAL MEN ARE BEGOTTEN BY THEIR MORTAL FATHERS."


This is not what the Bible says. The Bible tells that a Virgin will conceive and bring forth a Son, who is called Emmanuel, meaning "God with us" (not a brother with us!) (Matt. 1:18-23) M ary of the LDS Church was not a Virgin who brought forth a son, but a "wife" of the heavenly Father, whom Brigham declared to be Adam. Orson Pratt, an apostle, told in his doctrinal book entitled, "The Seer," page 158: "...The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated together in the capacity of Husband and Wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father. Inasmuch as God was the first HUSBAND TO HER (Mary), it may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in this mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity..."


The leaders of the LDS Church have also taught that their Jesus was married and had children, and that he was even a polygamist. Apostle Orson Pratt, in his book, The Seer, page 172, says:
"...the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist...the Messiah chose to take upon himself his seed; and by marrying many honorable wives himself, show to all future generations that he approved the plurality of Wives under Christian dispensation... The son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings' daughters and many of the honorable Wives were to be married. We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit their wives in eternity as well as in time..."


Joseph Fielding Smith, who was the president of the LDS Church in 1970's, said, in an answer to a question: "Was Jesus married?" - "Yes, but do not throw pearls to the swine!" We can clearly see that the LDS church still believes that Jesus was married, but doesn't want to "throw pearls to the swine" or to reveal this to the non-Mormons.


Bernard P. Brockbank, in the LDS Church's 147th General Conference, said that the CHRIST FOLLOWED BY THE MORMONS IS NOT THE CHRIST FOLLOWED BY TRADITIONAL CHRISTIANITY; he said:
"... It is true that many of the Christian churches worship A DIFFERENT JESUS CHRIST than is worshipped by the Mormons..." ("The Ensign," May 1977, p. 26.)
In summary, Jesus of the LDS Church is not Jesus of the Bible. God of the LDS Church is not God of the Bible. Joseph Smith said that there is "A GOD ABOVE THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST..." and in Mormon Doctrine, pages 332-323, we read: "...If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and ... God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that he had a Father also. Where was there ever a son without a father? ...Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that he had a Father also?" Joseph Smith, in 1844, as recorded in the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pages 344-347, first told the audience that: "...every man has a natural, and, in our country, a constitutional right to be a FALSE PROPHET, as well as a true one..." Then on the next page, he says: "...I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see." He tells that "...God himself was once as we are now...and you got to learn how to be Gods yourselves... the same as all Gods have done before you..."
The God of the Bible says: "...Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I KNOW NOT ANY." (Isa. 44:10) If God had a father and he had a father and so on, God of the Bible surely would know that! In the Bible, God calls us to "know," to "believe" and to "understand" who He is. He says: "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may KNOW and BELIEVE me, and UNDERSTAND that I am he: BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NEITHER SHALL THERE BE AFTER ME." (Isaiah 43:10) To Joseph Smith and to all Mormons, that simply means: THEY WILL NOT BECOME GODS! They cannot "learn" how to become gods! God of the Bible says so! God says: "I AM THE LORD, AND THERE IS NONE ELSE, THERE IS NO GOD BESIDE ME..." (Isa. 45:5) God tells what happens to the false prophets who try to lead people after other gods: "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or the dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. AND THAT PROPHET, OR THAT DREAMER OF DREAMS, SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH; BECAUSE HE HAD SPOKEN TO TURN YOU AWAY FROM THE LORD YOUR GOD..." (Deut. 13:1-5) It is interesting to note that about six weeks after Joseph Smith had preached this sermon (in April 1844), that men will and can become gods and that God was not God from all eternity, Joseph was killed!! Coincidence?? (Orthodox Jews have a saying: "Coincidence is not a kosher word!")


The Bible tells that God is God "from everlasting to everlasting" (Ps. 90:2), and when speaking about Messiah, GOD BECOMING A MAN (not a man becoming God!) it says: "For unto us a child is born, unto us the son is given:.. and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, the Mighty God, THE EVERLASING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE" (Isa. 9:6), and "Art thou not from EVERLASTING, O LORD MY GOD, MINE HOLY ONE?" (Hab. 1:12) To the believers of the God of the Bible are given these comforting words: 'THE ETERNAL GOD IS THY REFUGE, AND UNDERNEATH ARE THE EVERLASTING ARMS..." (Deut. 33:27) To the followers of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and today's LDS prophets, we would like to say, as Joshua said to Israel: "...choose you this day whom ye will serve... but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD." (Joshua 24:15)


In the English Bible (KJV), whenever the word LORD is in all capital letters, in Hebrew it is a name of God, represented by consonants JHWH (Hebrews didn't dare to pronounce it) and it is translated both LORD or GOD. When God spoke to Moses, He declared Himself to be God, the Great I AM, and He told that by His name JHWH (JE-HO-VAH) he was not known to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This was the first time that He revealed His name (Exodus 6:3).


Throughout the Bible, the words "I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD" (i.e., Ex. 6:7) or "I THE LORD GOD" are used by God to tell the prophet who is speaking. The word LORD (JHWH) and the word GOD (ELOHYIM) (Eloheim) are used as in the example above: I, THE LORD GOD, (not we, like Mormon doctrine teaches). Speaking of the Godhead, "Mormon Doctrine," page 576, says: "...As each of these persons is a God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a plurality of Gods exists." In Hebrew, the word EL means God, word Eloheim is plural form of the word (similarly, the word Cherub is singular and the word Cherubim is plural). When we read in our English Bible: "I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD," if we put it back into Hebrew, it would read: "I am JHWH your Eloheim." One doesn't get two gods from it - but only one God. Trinity is not mentioned in the Bible as a word, but plurality of persons in ONE GOD is clearly demonstrated throughout the Bible. The Bible came to us through Israel. To the Jew there is but one God, JHWH. Deut. 6:4 is what Jews repeat daily and with their dying breath say: "Hear, O Israel, LORD our GOD is one LORD" or in Hebrew: "Hear, O Israel, JHWH our Eloheim is JHWH." Most people agree that Father is God. The Bible teaches that Jesus is God (i.e., John 1:1, 14; 20:28), and that Holy Ghost is God (comp. Acts 5:3 and 4, and 1 Cor. 3:17 with 6:19), but the Bible also teaches that THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. In Isa. 45, verses 5, 6, 14, 18, 21, 22, God says that there is no other God or Lord. Other examples: Deut. 4:35 and 39; 32:39; I Sam. 2:2; II Sam. 7:22; 22:32, I Kings 8:60; Ps. 18:31; Jer. 10:10; Gal. 3:20; Eph. 4:6; Mark 12:32 and 34. In James 2:19, it tells that even demons know that there is only one God. Why is it that the LDS Church doesn't know that? The LDS Church often says that there is more than one god, because God, in Gen. 1:26, says: "And God said, let us make man in our image..." Note that there is only one image, and the next verse clears it by saying: "So God created man in HIS own image... in the image of God created HE them: (Not WE!) The word Eloheim (GOD) refers to the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, but the verb is in the singular in every case where plural form Eloheim appears. Examples of what God says about Himself: "I, the Lord God" (I JHWH Eloheim), not "we", (JHWH and Eloheim) or "I AM THE LORD YOUR GOD," not, "we are" JHWH and Eloheim.


Since the Bible declares itself as being God's word, it doesn't "argue" about God. The Bible clearly tells that His ways and thoughts are far above our thoughts, but that through the Holy Spirit we will learn to understand what He has done for us and how great His love is towards us. God has given us a simple way, one way, narrow way. Let no one confuse you of that. Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth and the life." He said, in John 17:3: "...this is eternal life to know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent." Just because you may have believed previously false teachings of the LDS Church, it doesn't mean that you cannot now accept the truth from God's Word, the Bible.


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WOODY'S WIFE CINDY SHARES HER TESTIMONY

A Convert and a devoted Mother and Wife in Mormonism

After much pleading (and nagging) from my husband Bill to share my story on our exit from Mormonism, I finally decided to be an "obedient" wife, and so here I am.

Life has still been quite hectic since we left the church 3 years ago... To everyone who has shared their experience in leaving Mormonism, or finding out its all a lie & not sure what to do next, you have helped my husband so much from sharing your experiences. He has identified with the anguish and pain of others discovering the church is all a lie & the new friendships developed over the web site have given him comfort and strength. This will most likely be my only entry for awhile & hopefully my story will benefit somebody somewhere, like others have helped me.

I grew up in Orange County California and as a young child, I was burdened by the ongoing family problems of my home. The fighting between my parents at one point became so bad, plus the fighting between my older brother & my father (his step-dad), that I can remember going through severe depression & wanting desperately to die. Life had no meaning or purpose & I didn't think I could be strong enough emotionally to endure home life.
I stopped thinking about taking my life when I saw the movie with Charlton Heston, "THE TEN COMMANDMENTS". What struck me so strongly in the movie was the commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill. Even though life at home was bad, suicide would be breaking that commandment & for some reason I didn't want to offend God.


Then when I was around 10 or 11, I had an experience which changed my life drastically & permanently! I got to spend the summer with my cousins in Ohio, & while I was there I accidentally poisoned their pet kitten. (There were flies all over the kittens food, so I sprayed them with bug spray without thinking I was spraying the food as well). When I found the kitten in the garage, it was foaming at the mouth, eyes turned in back of its head, & it was having convulsions. I didn't tell my aunt what I had done accidentally, but begged her to take the kitten to the vet. She put my hand on its chest & told me it was just about dead anyway because there was barely a heart beat.

Sobbing out of control, I ran to the basement & locked the door behind me. I remembered the miracles I saw Moses performed in the "Ten Commandments" movie & for some reason I decided to plead for the life of this animal to God. The room was dark & I knelt beside the sofa with my face buried in the cushions to "muffle" the sounds of my crying & when I calmed down a little, began to pour out my soul in behalf of this little kitten. I begged Jesus to heal it and told Him I knew He could do it as I reminded Him of each miracle He performed in that Charlton Heston Movie, & proceeded to mention every one. I told Him of all the misfortune my cousins had when it came to some of their other pets & couldn't bare the thought of them loosing another one. Still sobbing, I told Jesus if he would answer this one prayer for me, I would be a good girl for the rest of my life and try to never do anything bad. Between crying and praying, I must have been on my knees for over 30 minutes.

Trying to gain back my "10 year old" composure, I dried my eyes & got off my knees to rejoin my young cousins. We all had to load up in the car to go grocery shopping & on our return back to the house, I was dumbfounded to see the baby kitten sitting on the back porch. It looked weak but it was alive & purring. Since God had kept his end of the deal, I remembered my promise & intended to keep mine. Home life was still a mess & my brother & sister got heavy into alcohol & drugs to escape the pain, plus tried several times to commit suicide. My brother was eventually found after he had been dead for 6 weeks in his apartment & his body was so decomposed the cause of death was unknown. Me on the other hand never took the first puff, the first drink, nor the first pill & I intended to be a virgin when I got married. I was an honor roll student at school & wanted to be a nurse when older. Although my family never went to any church I thought a lot about God & wondered what He was like & how He came to be.

My junior year in High School I met a Mormon girl & we became friends. I started visiting a couple of churches & she invited me to church w/ her family one Sunday. It was testimony meeting & I was "sucked in" on all this "Families Are Forever" stuff I heard, along with so many adults and children stating that "That they knew the church was true" & seemed to talk about "Heavenly Father" in such a personal way. Needless to say, I had the missionary discussions & joined at 17. I took my relationship w/ Deity so seriously, that I fasted for 2 days, 3 months after joining the church, trying to get that "burning in my bosom" to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was the only true church. I asked Heavenly Father to give me a "sign" & the answer or feeling I got, I now know wasn't from God. I realize now that when one asks for a "sign" to get proof, then you open the door for adversary because the Bible says Satan can appear as an angel of light & that he comes as a wolf in sheep's clothing to deceive people from the real truth & things about God. Never growing up with the Bible, & Mormons "poo-pooing" the Bible (except for the stuff Joseph smith re-translated) and all the crap from Mormon prophets that "a man can get closer to God by reading the Book Of Mormon than any other book", I never read much of the Bible as a Mormon. (Besides how can anyone ever find time to get to the Bible anyway between the D&C, & the other standard works to read, plus attending all those stupid meetings & working your self to death for the betterment of Zion).

I went on to BYU for 1 year & then Bill & I were married in the L.A. Temple in 1975. Looking back, the whole temple ordeal was such a "dud" & big disappointment on my 1st time through. I heard a lot of people always saying how "spiritual" it was to go, & yet my experience was so different. When I got to the veil I broke down crying. A temple worker asked me why I was crying & I told her how the temple was supposed to be a spiritual experience & to me the whole thing was so confusing. She said, "that is the beauty of the temple because each time we go we learn something new about the mysteries of God; President McKay went thousands of times in his life & it wasn't until he was in his old age that he understood what it was all about." I thought to myself, "that's just terrific; when I'm reaching my 80's then maybe I'll have a clue, but until then I'll just go through the motions of dressing & re-dressing like some Barbie Doll with silly hand motions and being "ticked off" that Bill got to know my temple name, but he wasn't allowed to tell me his & also, why was Eve always such a "mute" in the temple movie I saw. Adam did all the talking back & forth to God, while Eve grunted out a word here and there, storing up her 10,000 words a day, while Adam got to converse with the Lord using up his 5,000 words a day on deity & not his wife; NO WONDER Eve had to go and talk to a snake! Those 10,000 words had to go somewhere.

Then came our wonderful honeymoon in Salt Lake City!! Bill made the big mistake of taking me to the Bee Hive House where some "250 generation moron" (Excuse me, I meant 5 generation Mormon), told me that Bill would have more than one wife in the Celestial Kingdom. Being a member for only 2 years I told her only if I would let him & some men would have many wives & some would only have 1. She enlightened me by quoting junk from Brigham Young (after all we were touring his house) stating that it was an eternal principal & that each man would have at least a minimum of 200 wives & my husband didn't need permission from me in the hereafter to get them.

I cried all the way back to Hotel Utah while Bill silently drove listening to me go on and on and on how I had no intentions of sharing him in the hereafter and how I felt like a 2nd class citizen being a woman in the church compared to a man. Yeah, if I was a man I'd love the thought of the Celestial Kingdom too; making eternal "whoopie" with countless women forever, while I get stuck with "billions" of spirit children FOREVER, (Changing spiritual poopy diapers). Boy, I can hardly wait; when do we go! Give me a hand gun!) Being a virgin when I got married, this didn't rest well with only being married 2 days. Poor Bill! Instead of a honeymoon filled with "passion & lust", he watched a lot of movies in our hotel, while I cried & had a big time pity party over a doctrine I didn't even have to live until after I was dead!

I continued to struggle with this doctrine deeply throughout the years in the church because I loved Bill so much & wanted to be his one and only special sweetheart. He has always been my very best friend & the thought of sharing any aspect of him was always too much to bare. Here we have struggled through this journey of life together, bringing children into the world & sharing ups and downs, only to become a "number" of the many women to serve him as he becomes a god with "worlds without end". I tried not to dwell on it often with my finite mind because it upset me so badly, so I put it out of my mind as best I could. I did share with one sister in the church who told me that since we lived with Heavenly Father in the pre-existence, we knew about Heavenly Mother & were very aware of all of His wives. When we made it to the Celestial Kingdom, we would remember our premortal life & we would accept & embrace this doctrine, but until then I would have to accept it on faith.

Even though I struggled with this, as well as the temple ceremony, I continued to be a devout member of the church & accepted everything on faith. I felt that Heavenly Father loved & blessed me enough to have led me to the restored gospel; blessed me with a wonderful husband who took me to the temple; etc. etc. I went to every church meeting & accepted & served faithfully in every calling given.

Even after we were married & lived in a little town (Statesboro, GA), I never complained when given a "thousand" callings at once. I was used to the church being so big in California & in Utah, & here in the South it was so different. Our little branch had 25 active members & we met in an old tiny house. Being basically a new convert, I was quite surprised when I had to drive 250 miles to visit teach 4 ladies a month (3 of which were inactive & didn't have phones so when they weren't there, I didn't get credit). When I visit taught at BYU, I only had to go up 2 floors in the elevator when I stayed at Deseret Towers); In the small branch I also taught 11 children Sunday school in a garage; was homemaking counselor in Relief Society as well as the spiritual living teacher; also played piano for every church meeting, plus our tiny choir. Since there were more callings it seemed, then members to serve or even accept, I happily volunteered whenever I saw a need because I wanted to be a strong saint & example to others. This was before the consolidated meetings so my whole life was "church". I even wrote president Kimball (who was prophet at the time) telling him how weak the church seemed to be in the South. He wrote me back a personal letter telling me that no one had to be a prophet or a general authority to make the celestial kingdom & that the Lord was aware of my efforts and to continue to serve faithfully.

Bill & I had 4 children in 4 1/2 years & despite the demands of young children, I still believed & faithfully served. Even when I had 3 little ones in diapers at the same time, I heard a church leader say from the pulpit that "we couldn't be saved without our dead" & if we died before doing our genealogy, then we wouldn't make the celestial kingdom. So to be the obedient member of the church, I worked myself to death between diapers, church callings, visiting teaching, & regular temple attendance, I managed to get my genealogy completed & back to the 1500's so I wouldn't have to worry in case I "croaked" any time soon. I no sooner got that accomplished that again from the pulpit I heard how we had to have our year supply of food & our emergency preparedness kits. Shortly after that we were challenged to keep a journal daily; shortly after that we were encouraged as families to have missionary cottage meetings in our home to spread the gospel. Whatever suggested from the pulpit, I always accepted since these church leaders were inspired priesthood holders & again I thought I was being faithful.
Nine years into our marriage, Bill dropped the "bomb shell". We were having our usual "pillow talk" in bed after the kids fell asleep & he said "I have something I need to tell you & I don't know how you're going to take it". I couldn't fathom what could be such a big deal. He told me that he had doubts about the church for awhile but couldn't keep it inside any longer. I was devastated & couldn't believe my ears. He knew my whole life was the church & these doubts threatened our "eternal family". Even though he shared various issues, I told him he needed to have more faith & suggested reading the Book of Mormon more & attend the temple regularly. I feared that maybe he had transgressed spiritually due to some terrible sin. Over the course of the next nine years our marital arguments were always about the church. I even threatened divorce several times & told him to get his act together spiritually. I "Knew" the church was true and his stupid questions were not going to divide our family spiritually.


I grew up with nothing spiritual as a kid & I wanted our children to have parents united with the same belief system. I found myself reading his patriarchal blessing over and over again because there were so many wonderful promises & what a spiritual giant Bill was. I also fasted regularly for those many years begging Heavenly Father to bless Bill with a strong testimony like mine. If he had touched Alma the younger along with the son's of Mosiah (in the Book Of Mormon), then he could give Bill a testimony. The more Bill questioned, the more I over compensated to our 4 children by being even more "spiritual". Bill's love & patience for me during these years was always constant. He still attended church to pacify me & went through the motions of "activity". In 1993 he told me he was driving out to Utah to find answers to his questions & that if these doubts were not resolved, he was going to leave the church. He told me if I wanted to divorce him then to go ahead but he could no longer ignore nor escape these questions and issues that troubled his testimony for so many years. Knowing Bill to be such a great man of integrity, I felt for his yearning for truth. I told him whatever his decision was when he came back home I would support him. I was hopeful that education week would do the trick, but continued to pray in behalf of his spiritual welfare.

Bill's trip out to Utah with our daughters was a fiasco due to car problems & he missed 4 out of the 5 days of education week. On his return trip home they all went to Nauvoo & visited the sights there. He didn't say much nor comment on his "journey for truth" trip. He bought 6 books (from BYU & the Deseret Bookstores) & for the next 2 weeks stayed up reading until 4 and 5:00 AM. Bill had never read any anti-Mormon literature; all of his questions & doubts came from "Mormon literature" he purchased while on his mission and thereafter. The more he read these 6 books, the more he'd cross reference with books in his Mormon library. Five separate occasions he woke me up at 3 and 4:00 AM to share with me things he read that confirmed to him the church was one big lie. He said he would never step foot in the Mormon church again & was outraged at what he discovered.

The more Bill unloaded on me, I realized that he was right and I would support him on his exit out. I was serving as a counselor in the young women's organization & we had attended the ward in our county for close to 10 years. We were thought of as the "model" family & were loved by so many. When I phoned the Bishop to tell him we were leaving the church & why, he was shocked, as well as everyone else. Bill told our Bishop & stake President the reasons, but our discoveries & search for truth meant nothing to them. We were told that if we read the book of Mormon, D&C & pearl of great price we would know the church was true. I thought to myself, "what about the Bible?". The news quickly traveled through out the ward after we left & the members were shocked. Our daughter was told at school that Bill must have committed adultery to leave the church and do this to his family. Another person told me that he was going through a mid-life crisis or probably was suffering from a chemical imbalance. My last meeting attended was a "New Beginning's" program for the girls. I had 12 MIA maid girls I had been with for 2 years & we were all so close. Some of the girls had found out from my girls at school we were leaving the church & they sobbed uncontrollably.

We attended our excommunication & that was difficult as we sat among what I thought were friends we had made over the course of many years. I bore my testimony of Jesus Christ & that I knew he lived; my Savior was the redeemer in the Bible and no longer the "Mormon one". My bishop looked at me crying (along with some of the other brethren) & said there were so many wonderful things in the church & was it all so bad. I looked him in the eye & crying said, "Bishop, I love my husband because I trust him, but if I found out that even though he treated me good 95% of the time, & was only unfaithful to me 5% in our marriage, the 95% of "wonderful" couldn't compensate for any percentage of deceit or a lie. Yes the church has a lot of wonderful things like great primary & young men & women's organizations as well as other things, but all the wonderful things mean nothing when you find out the whole thing is based on a lie, especially when it comes to the identity of Christ.

The church was made up & created by Joseph Smith who was a lost soul & out for control & it has had over 100 years to work all the bugs out so when new converts hear the "restored gospel", it sounds so wonderful & Christian, but its Satan himself leading people down the wrong path & away from the true Christ. Members are so busy working and serving that they become dependent on their church leaders to be "spoon fed" any thing from the pulpit & never read or search on their own".
No trial or event in my life could have prepared me emotionally for our exit out. The church leaders got wind of Bill & I speaking publicly in different churches about the falsehoods of Mormonism & why it is a cult. Our names were mentioned over the pulpit in the ward & for people to "beware" of us. Our accounting firm that we had struggled to develop for over 5 years, was gone in 2 weeks because our member clients were told to stay away from us. I couldn't believe the shunning the children and us experienced. Dear friends, would see us in the grocery store or movie theater & walk out. The children & Bill & I lost every one of our friends but more devastating than loosing friends & our accounting firm was feeling betrayed by God. I felt forsaken and abandoned; if he loved little children so much, why did he allow me to be deceived by an organization when I tried to be so good and find truth.


Why did I have to be a faithful member for 21 years to find out it was all in vain. Why didn't the Lord lead us out when our children were young instead of now when all 4 were teenagers & lost everyone of their close friends. Where would we go spiritually from here & what would we teach our children. I worshipped & prayed to the wrong God, so what were His attributes since He wasn't the Mormon god which was a "man who lived on a planet with many wives & became a God of his own world"; who was He for real.

The whole experience in leaving was difficult for our children emotionally. We had just recovered a few years back from bankruptcy (a Mormon partner had stolen $40,000 from us & we had lost everything; our beautiful home, cars, & credit) that took a huge toll on our family and now this mess. Bill's side of the family offered little support since they were all "devout" members of the church. With no job, no friends, no church "home" anymore, the stress caused our oldest daughter to drop out of school her senior year & run away from home. Come to find out Bill's whole side of the family had "rescued her" from her terrible fate & sent her to England without telling us a word, while we worried sick about her where abouts. They justified their actions since we were "apostates" & our misfortune of events was due to our own rebellion against the church. Bill's brother never told him that he & his wife were expecting a baby & when it came, we & the other 3 children, were forbidden to see it or have anything to do with his family.

With no support anywhere I became extremely depressed. I shared with one minister who told me I was having a pity party & feeding my own pathology. His LACK of words of wisdom & compassion made my pain even worse because there was no where to go. My parents love and acceptance had been conditional my entire life, & now all my best friends in the church had abandoned me since I was no longer the "perfect" Mormon with the "happy active family" facade.

I no longer felt like a special child of God; instead I felt like a useless human being with no purpose or direction to go. God has billions of people He has created & I was only 1; why should my life matter to me if I felt it didn't matter to Him. My despair became so great that my depression caused me to alienate myself from Bill and the children for several weeks. At least when we went through the bankruptcy & lost everything, I still had my testimony & purpose for life, and now there was nothing to fall back on at all.

I locked myself in my room and cried for hours at a time. Every day for several weeks I was absorbed with the thought of suicide to end my pain & nearly followed through with the plan to end my life. My pleas to God were tears of anger as I yelled bitterly in my room over and over again, "WHY?" "Why did you allow me to be deceived! Why, why, Why!!!" I was so ticked off with God & yet I cried in the same breath over and over again, "Help me. Please help me. Don't abandoned me." I just couldn't believe the feeling of betrayal & hatred I felt for the church leaders in Salt Lake who care nothing for the salvation of man, & just keep perpetuating falsehoods and lies when they have got to know that its all a farce! They have become so callused to truth as they rake in the millions of dollars sent in from faithful church members like myself, while we serve ourselves to death for the "kingdom". It was hard to realize that the church is nothing more than a multi-million dollar corporation bilking its members of tithing money & offerings to keep the church rich.
We had a stake president tell us, "there isn't a damn thing true about the church but its the best place to raise a family". Bill told him how could it be the best if it was all a lie; didn't he care anything about truth. Church is supposed to be a place to learn about the things of God to help you in your Christian walk; it isn't a fraternity. My father told me I was a fanatic & why did I let religion rule my life. He said to just go on with my life and be happy.


I told him that for me personally, without a belief in Christ there is no hope because He knows me better than I know my own self. My belief in God & acceptance of Him at the age of 10 carried me through a difficult childhood & gave me purpose and hope in a world that is filled with a lot of hopelessness & pain.
My children came to me crying saying they were afraid they were becoming atheist. I told them to hang on to those prayers that we knew were answered (& I pointed out several of them)& to please not to throw "the baby out with the bath water" so to speak; don't throw away your belief in God just because Mormonism wasn't true. Somehow God would see us through.
Church hopping & learning about different religions & churches was overwhelming. Being out of the church almost 3 years now has been difficult with time. I no longer look at the cup "half empty" as far as God is concerned, but feel it is "half full" because I am so happy to be free from the bondage of Mormonism.


Even though we never see our oldest daughter much & she is still messed up emotionally; & even though Bill has yet to find a steady job & has just got laid off job #4 (they say he's over qualified); & even though Bill's side of the family have alienated us; & even though we lost 99% of dear friends developed in our 31 & 21 years of faithful membership in the church, I have experience a deep peace at the age of 40 that I never had before. For my own self, I have realized that trying to figure out the will of God, is like an amoebae trying to figure out the mind of man; it will never happen in this life. God never intended for us to understand everything that happens in our life, so my motto lately is "QUE SERA, SERA; WHAT WILL BE WILL BE". I have a strong belief in Christ & am trying to grow as a new found Christian in my "Christian walk". Bill & the kids & I have joined a church & although I struggle getting close to people & feel like throwing "Chucky Cheese Tokens in the plate when it's passed, I try & get something positive out of the message.

A member of the church told me they could never have done to our children what we did to ours because we put our family through hell. My reply was that I'd do it all over again because I value truth so much. Yes we paid a great price for truth, but as you read the Bible so did John the Baptist (he lost his head) & Daniel (who was thrown into a lions den) & there are so many more examples.

I am sorry I have "rambled" & written more like a "novel" but I haven't shared these feelings & experiences with anyone outside my family. I pray for so many of you who are just learning of the lies of Mormonism & feel & relate with your stories on the web site because I have been there & know first hand the pain.

WOODY'S TESTIMONY - A MORMON FOR 31 YEARS


A Mormon for 31 years

Hello everyone;
My name is Woody and even though I have been on the net for a while, this is my first entry. I want to thank everyone who has shared their hearts on their exit from Mormonism.

My family joined the church when I was ten & I was a member for 31 years. On my mission in Southern California, while defending the faith & working with some wonderful members, I was exposed to many of the "weird" doctrines I had never heard before. I ignored those doctrines after I had gone to a local institute director at Long Beach State University, and he had minimized those "weird" arguments by saying they were tools of the devil and used frequently by anti-Mormons who misquoted the prophets.

I returned home in 1974, entered college, and got married to Cindy in the LA Temple in November 1975. I was very active in the little church branch where the college was located.
In 1978 I was quite surprised to learn that the brethren had decided to ordain blacks to the priesthood. I was not disturbed that blacks could not serve in the church as priesthood holders, but disturbed because Brigham Young (BY) prophesied that the blacks would never hold the priesthood until after Christ came at His second coming. This was the first evidence to me of conflicting doctrines given by general authorities of the church that were supposedly revelations from God. This also brought to memory those conflicting doctrines that were minimized by the institute director, while on my mission. Even though this bothered me, I stayed active and began to pray and study harder for personal understanding.


The following years were spent in reading church books and the standard works to resolve these conflicts. The more I studied and read, the more questions arose and less answers available. In 1985, I told Cindy there were many issues in the church which concerned me. This upset her greatly because she was taught in Relief Society that doubts could sometimes be the symptom of a greater personal sin such as infidelity. Even though Cindy knew I had always been faithful to her, she was extremely bothered that I questioned the church and lacked a strong testimony . Whenever we argued, it was always about my lukewarm testimony compared to those other "spiritual" priesthood holders in the ward and my own testimony before 1978.

Cindy had grabbed hold of the "romantic" notions of the eternal family doctrine because she was raised in a very bad family and was looking for a method of having a better family of her own. As a convert she was sure the church had the true family system. Consequently, Cindy was not tolerant of my doubts, so once again I suppressed them & plead "insanity". Continuing on, I studied and remained active while serving in various callings such as, the Young Men's program; the Bishopric; Sunday School; assistant institute teacher; seminary teacher; and an advisor to the High Priests. I loved reading everything on Joseph Smith and gave firesides to the youth, giving spiritual and funny events of his life. I even named my first born son after the prophet Joseph.

In 1990 the temple rituals were changed. Now my wife saw the political changes for the first time. Sure I noticed the big changes such as the penalties being dropped etc., but I already knew it was a joke. She noticed the subtleties I would have never noticed without her help. Things like, in the pre -1990 version, Eve always looked to Adam for her guidance. In the 1990 version, Eve looked to heaven also & even spoke more. That alone was a major doctrinal shift if one knew the control the organization exercised over women and still does today with its romantic families are forever nonsense.

In 1992 Cindy went to her alma mater to BYU Education week. I could not go due to work constraints. She attended a variety of lectures and came home uplifted and said what a spiritual experience it was. Cindy went on how she desired me to go the following year because she felt strongly it would have a positive affect on me and my testimony.

So in the summer of 1993, I accepted her challenge and drove to Utah with my two daughters, who were 15 and 17 years old at the time. When I attended a lecture on Joseph Smith (JS), the professor gave an antidote about Joseph's life that disturbed me deeply. The experience was about an entry in Willard Richards diary . Bro. Richards was telling of a time when he and Joseph were leaving the Mansion house to go to the church office. The diary entry stated how Joseph's faithful wife, Emma, asked Joseph if he was practicing Plural Marriage? The diary then told that Joseph answered "no". After they left the Mansion House and walking to their office, Bro. Richards asked Joseph why he had lied to Emma.

Joseph said Emma would never accept polygamy and he would have to go to Hell to save her. The audience was so impressed that Joseph had the power over hell as " The prophet of the restoration", and that he also loved his wife so much as to go to hell to save her soul.
I could not believe my ears! Did I miss something? If I remember correctly, didn't 2Nephi 9:34 say that "Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell." This was the last straw. I had two daughters on this campus and my wife at home, who's own self esteem was becoming co-dependent on the Brethren and the romance of their evil doctrines.


I did not attend many more sessions of education week. Instead I went to the BYU bookstore, BYU library, Deseret Bookstores, and the Deseret News. I confronted the BYU History Professor, Susan Easton Black, and asked her about the four versions of J. S. first vision. She said she could not answer it and referred me to Dean Jesse , the Seventy over church history in Salt Lake. I asked her about one of her self professed specialties, which was Mormons and Masonry. Before I asked my questions on Masonry, I asked about her background on the subject. Here I was seeking answers and Susan, the self professed expert, who had written on the subject and Ph.D. in History, said she had only read Mormonism and Masonry by McGavin. She did not know about the Catholic Monastic Templars that had preceded the Free Masons of 1314. She still believed that the temple rituals of Masonry and Mormonism where based on Solomon's Temple. Little did she know that the temple rights were secret codes used during the crusades by those Catholic Templars to determine who was friend or foe. Similarly, military engagement codes are used by today's allies to identify each other during tactical maneuvers. And she is supposed to be the expert of BYU, and the only source she had was reading one book authored by a Mormon. If this is research, give me a break!

Following the advise of Susan (since she couldn't explain why JS had 4 different versions of the first vision), I called Dean Jessee to see if he could give me an answer. He avoided the discussion over the phone, but said he would mail me a pamphlet on the subject. I received the pamphlet, "A SURE FOUNDATION - ANSWERS TO DIFFICULT GOSPEL QUESTIONS". On page 169 it said, the four versions of Joseph Smith's first vision could be compared to the four separate testimonies of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John of Christ. I had been on the debate team in college and had also been to court many times due to my profession, and this was the most stupid analogy I had ever heard in my life.

The Bible had four different individual's testimony , which all agreed on the identity of Jesus Christ, His life and teachings. J.S. gave four different testimonies of the same event that did not agree on any material issue. In fact, any fair court on earth or in heaven , would deem J.S. a liar; wake up Bro. Jessee. What is really interesting on this issue, is that Oliver Cowdery (who had been living with JS and Emma in those early years), had written a letter to encourage Brigham Young and his brothers, to come and meet the prophet. In that letter, Oliver said that JS told him in his "first vision", it was Nephi that delivered the message and told Joseph to join none of the other churches. It wasn't until 1838 (6 years later), that the story had evolved to the point that the "Heavenly Personage" was none other than Christ, and God the Father.

Next my research took me to Deseret News where I obtained a copy from the original newspaper, of many of the Adam-God discourses written by Brigham Young (BY). I was told by my last Bishop and the institute director (on my mission), that B.Y. was misquoted. Now does anyone think B.Y., who had an authoritarian personality like Sudam Hussein, would let his newspaper misquote him. If anyone reads one page of B.Y. in the Journal of Discourses, one would know that nobody crossed Bro. Brigham, so I doubt the newspaper would misquote a hand written document of B.Y; If they had, there would have been some evidence of a retraction by the newspaper shortly thereafter. The reason why there never was any retraction, is because BY loved the Adam-God Doctrine. In the newspaper, a sermon by Brigham Young, dated June 14, 1873, Brigham Young said, (to paraphrase), that God had revealed to him, that Adam was our Father and God, and that he was the literal Father of Jesus Christ.

I had read the book The Great Apostasy by James E. Talmage, while on my mission. As I researched Mormonism it brought back to my mind the discoveries of Talmage about Catholic history; its deceit, its revisions of history, and its control of its ignorant and faithful masses. The very thing Talmage had criticized about Catholicism, the church had been doing since its beginning, too.

Driving home from BYU, I was still studying and pondering the above issues (unknown to my daughters). The girls were oblivious as to what was going on in my heart. They were so excited about BYU education week, the things they had learned, and the boys they had met. We even stopped in Nauvoo.

On the long drive home, I shed many tears as the evidence grew showing the deceit and manipulation of the brethren in Salt Lake. I also worried how Cindy would accept the information I would confront her with and wondered if this would break up our marriage and ruin our family. I could only depend on God because Cindy had known that I was only seeking truth, not power or inactivity. Cindy asked me to do one thing when I left for BYU Education Week and that was not to come home lukewarm about my testimony.

When I arrived home Cindy wanted to know how everything went. I said fine, but I was continuing to read many of the church books I bought at the BYU bookstore while there. The final blow came when I read the life of Orin Porter Rockwell, whom I Loved to read about. In the account, Porter told his wife that he had shot Governor Boggs of Missouri. He told her all the facts and that is why the brethren kept Joseph and Porter confined within the city limits of Nauvoo to protect them from the mobs and extradition to Missouri. Well , I put that book down and went down stairs to my library and took out the book, The Life of Joseph Smith, The Prophet by George Q. Cannon, an "apostle of God". In this book, Bro. Cannon said the accusations from the people of Missouri, that a Mormon had shot Governor Boggs, was not true. Instead, he wrote that it was propaganda and that Gov. Boggs was shot by an enemy of the church to increase the persecution of the saints. Well here is another candidate for hell who was also a "profit", seer, and revelator. I could not stop there , so I called Sister Susan Easton Black in Utah, to see if this history was correct. I asked her specifically, " Do you think Porter Rockwell shot Gov. Boggs? She said "yes, I believe so." My heart sank. I had been up every night until early hours reading for about two weeks. Cindy was concerned, but was not sure what to think. After the Rockwell issue had surfaced I could not keep it in.

I couldn't understand why my father didn't research before joining the church. He was well liked by the local brethren and people, yet I wondered why I had never seen him in humble prayer. I thought again about the manipulation my daughters would go through when they took the oaths and covenants. I remembered my wife's efforts to relate to God as a second class citizen. Her fate was to be sealed in a group to some man who did not know her heart like I did, if I did not keep straight on the path. This drove her to extreme insecurity as I questioned. All she could remember was Eve looking to Adam for her place in the Celestial Kingdom. She was killing herself to be perfect and to keep me perfect, so I could be worthy to take her and the kids back "To our home in the sky". (Ha!) That alone is why Mormonism is wicked. I did not want this for my girls.

Then I thought about my sons and their desire to be like Dad; to be totally worthy to serve a mission and go marry in the Temple. What about their potential heartache when they returned home after a mission, only to find me inactive. Worse would be the possibility in their adulthood of having a family of their own, and discovering what I knew now, disrupting their own family's life. Finding out the hidden lies and not knowing what to do or where to go because of the guilt one feels for doubting, then leaving when so entrenched in this bizarre "Fraternity" . I could not do to my sons what my father did to me.

I decided to present my case to Cindy and prayed that she would be receptive. I was prepared to leave the church alone, but I did not want to loose her and the children , as threatened twelve years earlier. She could go to church if she was not convinced, but I refused to ever go back since I could not support a lie. I had to do this so my children would see my convictions.
One evening I called Cindy into my study. I began to weep as I presented the awful facts before her. She listened and wept too. It took hours to present. When I was finished , to my dismay, she wanted to talk to the Bishop to try to find answers. Of course being a fair debater, I could only acquiesce.


The Bishop was BIG TIME concerned.! Here was his assistant advisor to the High Priests asking questions he could not answer. There were other considerations, too. I was the CPA for many members of the church and long time friends to most of them. One Children had performed as Annie in the Annie Play in Atlanta Theaters, she also sang at the Hawks Games. The other children had performed on radio, and on TV Commercials. In addition, he had set up a youth fireside for me to do a J.S. act. I am sure he was concerned about our salvation most of all. He tried to help answer Cindy questions. He brought up my oldest daughters personal problems to remind Cindy that our daughter's salvation depended on forgiveness by the church. Cindy brought all these issues back with her. She asked me to go with her to talk to the Bishop because she could not remember all the questions. I consented because this was her time to search.

The bishop could not answer the issues so he arranged an interview with the Stake President "Gibby". Gibby was the Bishops senior (x-military) pilot at Delta. He was from Provo and the "anti-mormon nemesis". This encounter was not something I looked forward too. But I was a debater from college so I was confident I could plead my case in a logical manner. If he could help me find truth I was willing. Particularly since Cindy was going to come as was the Bishop.
I was working late so we arranged to meet at the Stake Center at 10 o'clock a.m.. The Bishop escorted Cindy and I to the office. Cindy was nervous as was I. "Gibby" had the Bishop open the meeting with prayer. The Bishop sat to my right and Cindy to my left and "Gibby" in front.


Then he opened with the general question of "what's the problem?" I stated that the issues at hand were: 1) plural marriage and Joseph's promiscuity before the revelation, 2)the four versions of first vision, 3)the proof that the Book of Abraham was not only translated incorrectly but it was also 2000 years out of sync with actual history, 4)Brigham Young's Adam God doctrine, and 5)the Blood Atonement doctrine. I am not going to go into the evidence or arguments except to say #3 was the least researched and "Gibby" shut me down on that one, because he brought up one fellow's (Nelson) credibility issues which I had no counter argument for at the time. I had not read the book ..by his own hand upon papyrus by C.M. Larson at that time. Please remember that all of my research was from material within the church except for item #3, it was only a side issue at the time. It is a primary weakness for the church as I found out later.

During the discussion I asked "Gibby" could I bring out my evidence so we could look at the specifics. To my surprise he said "NO" he said that he did not bring his papers so I could not bring out mine. I said "well, you asked for this meeting do you not care to get to the specific problems and what created them?" He simply said we could discuss them anyway. So we began. We began with plural marriage. My questions were to the point. His answers were directed to my wife. He would never look at me as he answered any question. He went on a diatribe about how he was from a fine Utah Polygamy family and how his grandmother was so faithful even when she was refused a space in the main house by the first wife.

He went on to tell how his grandmother had to get money from her own uncle to feed her children because the first wife would not allow the husband to give money to feed his "illegitimate" children. In spite of those trials the "Gibby" is the best Mormon stock. I was not sure if he was against me or for me. He was not helping his case with my wife because I knew my wife hated polygamy and now he was giving her another reason to hate it.

The discussion went on for about 2 hours. Since he had no facts to confront my questions, he finally looked into my wife's eyes and said "If you continue in this direction then you will loose your family forever and you will be divorced in two years." I was angry. He had cut me off several times during our discussion telling me not to interrupt him when I was only trying to stay with facts not stories and feelings. I apologized each time to my "superior" to let him talk on as he sank his own ship. But now with is comment to my wife, he had hit her where she was most vulnerable her "eternal" family. I controlled my temper and was polite. I asked no more questions. The rhetoric was winding down for the defense and I was ready to go. He finished as before speaking to Cindy. Then the good old missionary trick "ask the most receptive party on the offense to give a sincere closing prayer and ask God that truth be revealed to each one there". Then he added the final salvo that would eventually seal his case in defeat.

My wife was holding on to an experience that consisted of a shocking feeling she had felt when she was 18 and she had prayed about the church, as the missionaries had asked her to do. Now "Gibby" said looking at Cindy "don't trust your feelings, (yea right) that burning in the bosom in D&C Section 9 is for translation purposes only. Pray for truth". (Boy, even I had not heard that argument before) He was afraid she would be influenced by me and he wanted to nip that problem in the bud, before she prayed. However, he forgot she can read and she can reason without me.

She was still caught in the emotions of the meeting and said a sincere prayer and wept as she exposed her vulnerable heart and the insecurities "Gibby" had laid wide open. I did not cry because I was so angry at the manipulation.
As we left together, Cindy was quiet. I walked her to her car. She had driven from her nursing course at college in a separate car. I said quietly to her, "Cindy I think I lost you in there." She looked at me with tears in her eyes and said "But, it is so beautiful". I said " It seems that way. I wish I had recorded the meeting so you could review it on your own. You could hear that he never answered the facts that were mentioned; such as the doctrinal changes, J.S.'s promiscuity before the Everlasting Covenant of Marriage was revealed. The fact certain sins are not covered by Christ's atonement. The Statement that J.S. said that he was greater than Christ. The fact J.S. sounds more like David Koresh than Samuel, a real prophet. He only spoke to you and pulled your heart strings."


To my surprise she turned to me and said she had taped it. I could not believe it. She had her little recorder she used in college on in her pocket the whole time. I told her I did not want to hear it. I said, however, that she should listen to it by herself and remember the evidence he would not allowed me to show and to listen to the answers to the issues he had given or failed to give. She said she had taped it really to use against me to keep me on the "straight path" if the answers from "Gibby" were conclusive. I told her that was O.K. by me if she believed "Gibby" was correct.

I did not talk to Cindy about that night for two weeks. She finally came to me one evening and said , "Bill, I am ready to leave where do we go from here?" I simply said "I don't know, but for now away from Mormonism."

I hope this experience will help anyone like you have helped me. I know it was long but it has been bottled for a long time. I would be glad to tell the excommunication, or post Mormon experience if anyone is interested upon request. I pray for you all and I know it is hard but worth it.

FORMER MORMON MISSIONARY - NOW A CHRISTIAN


A Mormon Convert,
BYU Student and Mormon Missionary to France

I have since eagerly read and appreciated each story on your site. I only wish this resource had been available to me two years ago, when I was in the painful process of leaving the LDS church. In fact, I was so desperate at that time for any contact with an ex-Mormon who could help me understand what had happened to my life, that I wrote to the author of an anti-Mormon book (a former Mormon himself, now an evangelical Christian.) Although I did not agree with all of his evangelical theology, I felt that since he was currently a pastor out in Utah (I'm from Virginia), that he was probably skilled in helping ex-Mormons come to terms with their past. He was kind enough to write back, and I did eventually meet another ex-Mormon who became a Catholic. Both were able to provide some of the support and encouragement I needed.

However, your site is even better because of the wide variety of stories available. I was able to find something in common with almost every entry. Although I consider myself fairly healed from the wounds of my Mormon past, it is still exciting to realize that I am far from alone.
However, I was not convinced that my story would bring anything new or special to your site until I read the entry written by the former French missionary. You see, I also served a mission in southern France (Toulouse) from the summer of 79 to January 81. My name at that time was Sister Hoffman (maiden name). Although I was not able to determine if I personally knew this missionary, we definitely shared the same circle of influences. I took religion courses from George Pace at BYU and well remember his scolding from Elder McConkie. (Even then, in my most indoctrinated phase, I was concerned by the church's stance against emphasizing Christ.) I also vividly remember The missionary from Quebec, Daniel Lemire, since he was possessed of a remarkable deep speaking voice (all the more interesting contrasted with his short stature) and beautiful Quebecois accent. I was touched to realize that this missionary had been suffering from the same spiritual angst which haunted me my entire mission and also led me to consider suicide (which was not an option due to my conviction that God would be so angry at me for ending my life that my suffering would only continue in the next life).


It saddens me to realize that throughout my entire journey in Mormonism I was surrounded by others suffering like me. We were all so well cond- itioned in Mormonism that we would not, could not, reveal our doubts to each other, so we all felt alone in our pain. It is for this reason that I have decided to share my own "travelogue", for perhaps there is something in my story that will provide the type of support and encouragement that I so longed for myself.
I was raised as a Methodist, although my parents were never enthusiastic in their faith. By the time I was a teenager, I felt that church was solely a social function which I could do without. When my older sister and her husband were tracted out by Mormon missionaries, they had just had their first baby and were feeling the need to pass on a belief system to him. In spite of her qualms about the priesthood ban to black men and to all women, and the pressure on women to stay at home and have lots of babies, they did join the church. I was also at the point where I felt that I needed resolution concerning my own beliefs and began taking missionary lessons as well. Upon praying about the Book of Mormon as taught, I experienced an emotional thrill new to me.


I accepted the missionaries' explanation that this was God answering my prayer, and was baptized at nineteen (in 1976). I immediately transferred to BYU, and later my entire family joined the church. I threw myself into church activity with such intensity and devotion that even my sister (who had encouraged me to join the church) was concerned over the complete change in my personality. In retrospect, it was really a loss of personality rather than a change. I no longer had any ideas or opinions of my own, every thought or belief I allowed myself had to be church approved. For example, although I had never had much interest in marriage and children previously, I now accepted that this would be my main purpose in life. Much to my dismay, after finishing my degree at BYU, although I had valiantly served the Lord in many time consuming callings and studied the scriptures daily, and prayed three times a day for twenty minutes at a time, the Lord did not see fit to bless me with a husband. Perhaps I needed to share my fervent testimony in the mission field first, I reasoned, and sub- mitted my papers.

I was delighted to be called to France, as I had studied the french language previously. I threw myself into my studies at the MTC with the same single minded fervor I had approached everything in Mormonism, and soon memorized all the lengthy lessons and was on my way to Toulouse. Perhaps a succesful, spirit filled mission was just the tonic my lack-luster life needed. Although I fulfilled every church requirement with exactness, I always felt an inner emptiness, a silent depression, for I knew I could never be good enough to earn God's stamp of approval. I used to have nightmares about waiting with tension at the end of the world, wondering if my name would be included among those to enter God's glory.


I certainly never felt the inner "peace of Christ" we were promised as faithful Mormons. I knew that I was going on a mission for the right reason. I only wanted to share the True Gospel, and was filled with the Book of Mormon stories of faithful missionaries converting thousands. France was known as a difficult mission, but that only strengthened my desire to be a mighty missionary, filled with faith, finding all those special spirits just waiting for us to have enough faith to find them and convert them to Mormonism.
Imagine my dismay when instead, I arrived in France to be told that my obedience was more valued than my faith, and to a senior companion who felt that it was her duty to constantly point out my faults. On top of that, the people of Bordeaux were NOT INTERESTED in our message. I wept every morning and night, and entered into a depression which lasted my entire mission, with varying degrees of severity. I called President Wheelwright and told him I needed to go home (this after 2 weeks in the field!) He convinced me to wait until our visiting General Authority (Brother Hale) came to inspire us with his guidance. My most vivid memory (backed up by my extensive journal entries) of Brother Hale's talk was that he berated us for being poor missionaries. The whole reason we could not convert people was due to our pitiful lack of faith. He berated the elders by insinuating that the sisters were far more faithful than they were (evidently to be compared poorly to a woman was his idea of the ultimate humiliation). I felt like crawling under my chair, for I knew that we could not be any better than the elders, for we were pitiful, too. We spent all day knocking on the doors of strangers, trying to spit out our pre-memorized introduction fast enough to beat the slamming doors. However, I decided to stick it out, even though I felt like the Lord was slaying my spirit. Perhaps this was to be my ultimate trial of faith that would finally earn me the peace of Christ.
I wept through those first few months, eventually being transferred to the beautiful southern city of Perpignan. I settled into the routine of knocking on endless doors, looking forward to any break in the monotony, even if it was just a district meeting with the elders. My inner depression was constant, and I sent home rambling letters expounding on my problems, "how could I earn the peace of Christ", and mentally debated the merits of suicide vs. admitting defeat and returning home. I once even got on the train (dragging along the ever present companion) and traveled to the mission back to the mission headquarters to convince President Wheelwright to let me go home.


He assigned me to his wife, and she took two days to convince me that if I went home, I was consigning myself to a lifetime of spiritual failure and inactivity within the church. Ironically, even though my devotion to the LDS faith had thus far only brought me depressions and low self-esteem, I still could not consider that perhapse the church itself was in err. I had built my adult life on the church, and the though of leaving it was too frightening to contemplate. So I stayed on, alternating between resigned depression and inner pep-talks (also based on the little book "Drawing on the Powers of Heaven", popular in the mission at that time). When my mission finally ended, I flew home expecting life to get better, only to drop into another deep depression where I began to consider that there was no God at all (I could not yet conceive of a God outside the realm of Mormonism, God was so tied up in the church, He could not exist outside it). I was counseled by the stake president and told to have stronger faith and everything would work out. I returned to Provo for a year, and finding no happiness there, either, finally came back to Virginia for good.

Within a year I married a recently returned missionary I had known for only three months (we had a feeling we were to be married, even though we barely knew each other). I began teaching and had 3 children in quick succession. He, unlike myself, had a happy mission, largely due to his ability to ignore rules, relax, and have fun. Ironically, he had many baptisms (stateside) vs. my 2 baptisms (which immediately fell away).


To my dismay, he continued his nonchalant attitude toward's the church's demands in our marriage (family prayer, home evening, scripture study, etc.). I felt certain he was failing our family as our priesthood leader, and that we would never "make it" to the celestial kingdom. This, combined with other problems due to our vastly different personalities (we had dated such a short time before marrying that we didn't realize we had nothing in common except the church), resulted in such marital stress I finally decided to see a "real" (non-LDS) counselor. Although that was frowned on in the church, I was in such a state of depression and spiritual angst that I felt I had no choice. Three children born within 4 years, teaching full time, numerous church callings, and a frequently absent husband due to his own work and church callings added up to immense stress. My counselor helped me to realize that I was seeing all of our problems through my own filter, and that sometimes reality and change depend on the ability to see clearly, outside of our own preconceptions. I did not stay in counseling long, but I learned enough to begin constantly praying that God would help me to "see things as they truly are, and not just as I believed them to be." I meant this in terms of my marital problems, but, perhaps inevitably, this attitude began to affect how I perceived my spiritual problems as well.

Mormons are so well trained to view any problem they may have with the church as their fault, since it could not possibly be the church's, that it is difficult to ever step out of that self-blame cycle. "If I were just a better person, if I just had more faith, etc. etc. I would have peace, I would be happy, etc. etc." Stepping out of that mindset took me several years.
Coincidently, (or not) at this time I happened upon the book "Emma Hale Smith - Mormon Enigma" in the library. Feeling "safe" since it was written by members, I checked it out. Thus began my long journey out of Mormonism.


I was truly shocked by what I read about Joseph Smith and his polygamous unions, which I had believed had been spiritual unions in name only, out of his respect for Emma's feelings against polygamy. Around the same time, I found Richard Van Wagoner's book "Mormon Polygamy" also in my library. I read each of these books over and over, taking notes and praying. I could not believe that God had sanctioned this mess. For example, did God tell married women to go ahead and marry another man (as a polygamous wife) while retaining the original husband as a cover? Did God tell Brigham Young that it was all right for a woman to leave her husband without a divorce, for a man with a higher calling in the church, since by marrying the man with the higher calling she was assuring for herself a greater degree of glory? Did God sanction the lying that went on to protect polygamy (which I was beginning to suspect had evolved more from Joseph's affection for women than from God's desire for... what? What desire of God could polygamy fulfill? Unlike most members believe, there was never a shortage of men in the LDS church. Even the leaders of the time admitted that.)


I could not yet doubt the truthfulness of the church, but I did begin to wonder if prophets make serious mistakes in guiding the church after all. Through anxious prayer (all of which was met with silence, except for vague feelings which I realized could have been my own, not God's) I finally came to the conclusion that the church was true, but prophets do make mistakes and polygamy was a big one.


However, (and I believe this is why the church teaches "once the prophet has spoken, the thinking is done" - to keep members from seriously analyzing the teachings of the prophets) once you open that door all sorts of other "mistakes" crop up. The Adam- God teaching, blood atonement, and racist teachings to name just a few. I had been in the church long enough and had studied enough to hear all those rumors, but had chosen to believe that they were just rumors based on Satan's lies. However, once I chose to believe that prophets could make mistakes, I began to study out those problems. I discovered that those, and many other outrageous doctrines actually were taught in the LDS church. I discovered the different, and conflicting, versions of the First Vision, as well as the historical problems with the Book of Mormon (which can be summed up shortly as "there ain't no way this stuff happened in real life!").


Shortly, I began to realize that what I was learning was making me seriously doubt that the church was the true church after all. But there could be no turning back. So I kept praying as I kept studying, pleading with God to let me know if indeed the church was true, despite all the evidence to the contrary. I talked with members about their faith, and found that most of the "absolute" testimonies they bear are really based on vague feelings (like mine had been) or on family tradition, or on the fact the church made sense to them (ie, the church as it portrays itself made sense).
After several years of study and prayer, I finally came to the inescapable conclusion that the LDS church was not the one true church at all.


Accepting this brought a certain amount of peace and relief (I felt relieved of the mental gymnastics I was performing to try to justify the church's history and doctrines). However, I also felt great sorrow and confusion. I had trusted God to lead me, I had built my life on Mormonism, I had spent my youth in its service, and look where it had gotten me. For some reason, I did not abandon my basic belief in God (as I once though I would if I ever discovered that the church wasn't true), so I kept searching , kept trying to make sense out of it all. It was at this point I could have benefited most from your site. I stopped attending the LDS church (my husband had also drifted into inactivity by this time). I felt drawn towards the same protestant churches I had once been taught to demean (regardless of what any Mormon apologist may profess about the church not criticizing other faiths, we ex-Mormons know that the founding tenet of Mormonism is that all other churches are false and do not have the power to save, drawing towards God with their lips only, and may even be, as Elder McConkie taught, the "whore on the water".)


Having been burnt once by authoritarian religion, I steered clear of fundamentalist groups which, to me, seemed as dogmatic as Mormonism. I wanted a church that could help me understand God without seeking to control my beliefs and thoughts through fear and domination. A friend suggested a nearby Episcopal church, and although all the attention to Christ felt strange at first, I quickly warmed to it. My priest constantly spoke of Christ's redemption, with the insinuation that His redemption was a gift given freely, one we could never earn. I began reading the Bible again, trying to understand it with my own mind, not the mind of Mormonism. I have come to believe and accept that grace, though nearly scorned in Mormonism, means more than "everyone resurrecting with a body". It means I can give up trying to make myself "good enough for God" because that is beyond my power. That is exactly why I never felt spiritual peace in all my years as a Mormon. Grace means God will take me as I am, broken and prone to sin, and heal me from the inside out.


I know that not all ex-Mormons agree with my interpretation of grace, but this is what has brought me peace. This is what I see as the greatest danger of Mormonism and other "top-down" authoritarian religions. When an earnest, sincere, God-seeking individual becomes involved with these various doctrines which teach that you have to earn your way to God, all sorts of abuses and mental problems can result. I lost the youthful personality and enjoyment of life I once had because I actually became addicted to religion, to the obsessive need to constantly measure my worth before God according to someone else's vision. I was so concerned about filling every point of the "law" (according to Mormon leaders) that there was no room for spirit.


This is why I think it is important for ex-Mormons (and ex-Witnesses, and ex-what-evers) to speak out, particularly as I see the LDS church pouring huge amounts of money into its public relations system. The public will be treated more and more to the sanitized version of Mormonism we see on Homefront commercials. We need to tell our side of the story, too.
I formally requested that my name be removed from the church rolls in the spring of 1995. I made the decision to be confirmed in the Episcopal church, although I have equal respect for those who choose to never join a church again. Any individual church will never have my single minded devotion again.


Although my still active family (and my husband's as well) have been very upset over my decision to leave the church and to bring up my children in another faith, I must commend them for still seeking to maintain positive relations with us. I only wish that one day they would be willing to consider Mormonism with an open mind. Although I can not push them in that regard, I must be ready to help them, or any of my former Mormon friends, if they ever come to that point. I am convinced that Mormonism (although I do not believe that its origins are Satanic, like some) is a very unhealthy system which breeds dependence and lack of original thought among its members, and is particularly devastating to women's self esteem. I do sincerely wish Mormons the peace of Christ, though I am convinced that it is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to experience that peace within the confines of Mormonism.

To those of you currently experiencing the pain of leaving Mormonism, I do want to hold out hope. The pain does recede, your life will regain balance again. One day you will be able to let Mormonism go, one day the bitterness will end, and trust in God can return.

A Mission in France and Insights into a Mormon Testimony

DZaitzeff@aol.com

how and why I left the LDS Church.

I was LDS for 12 years, from 1973 to 1985. I was baptized into the LDS Church when I was almost 14 years old, although I was "raised" LDS, practically speaking. My father was agnostic and my mother is LDS. My father was not opposed to the children being trained in religion by mom and the LDS. However, he did not wish us to be baptized until we were a little bit older than 8 and knew a little better what we were doing.

When I was baptized, I believed that knowing and obeying God were of the greatest importance in life. After my baptism and until the time I went to college, I spent my Sundays in reading the Bible and LDS books. (The LDS teach that one should keep Sunday holy as the Sabbath. For me, that meant no TV, homework or recreation, and that left a lot of time for reading.)

I had questions at times about the things that I read. My questions were not enough to cause me to seriously doubt my LDS faith, but to seek. I would find the person who seemed to know best and ask questions about the LDS faith. During this time, I repeatedly heard from other LDS about prayers God had answered, about healings done, protection offered and miracles wrought. I was taught that other churches were apostate and that their apostasy was manifest by their lack such signs.

Because I sensed that these LDS friends were speaking truthfully when they reported these answers to prayers, I assumed that God was with them, and therefore that the LDS Church was true. During these years, I had occasional conversations with classmates or neighborhood friends about religion. I had several Lutheran neighbors and a few friends at school identified themselves as Christian. None of them presented to me any good reason to doubt my LDS faith.
During these years, there was one time that I asked God to send me an angel to teach me. At this time, I had read a great deal of LDS material and wanted to know God and spiritual things better. One of my LDS seminary teachers had said that one of the early LDS prophets had had angels appear to him to teach him when he was young. The teacher suggested that we also could have that same blessing.

So, on a subsequent evening, I prayed in my dark room that God send me an angel. I was hoping that a light would appear and in it an angel, but nothing happened. At least, nothing happened visibly. The next night I prayed again in the same way, with the same lack of result. After these two unanswered requests, I figured that apparently this prayer did not work, and continued with the rest of my life.

After high school, I went to BYU. Actually, BYU had made the choice easier, because they decided to give me a 4-year, tuition-paid academic scholarship. Someone there apparently felt I had some potential. During my first year and a half at BYU, I met three friends who were to dramatically influence my spiritual life. They were Brad Thompson, my elders' quorum president, George Pace, my stake president and Chauncey Riddle, teacher of my honors Book of Mormon class for returned missionaries. Though I was not an "RM," I took the class, believing it offered me the best chance to learn as much as possible from the best teacher.

Although these men are all LDS, they pointed me in some new directions. They fed spiritually in a way I had previously not been fed. Basically, these men encouraged me to be much in prayer, to seek to know Jesus personally and to hear His voice through prayer. (George Pace recommended 20 to 30 minutes a day in prayer; Brad suggested as much as two hours.) They encouraged me to ask God questions about doctrine and scripture when I did not understand. They said that God had answered such questions for them. As He was no respector of persons, he would do the same for me, if I sought Him.

Later in my life, I began to realize that these three men may have been the first of God's answers to my prayer for angels to teach me.
At this time, 1977, I began to regularly ask God questions about doctrine and scripture. Actually, I have continued to ask God questions since that time. However, at this time, and for the next five to seven years, it seemed that God was not answering. In fact, for those first five years I did not receive one clear answer to any doctrinal question I asked God.

I served a two-year-mission for the LDS from 1979 to 1981. Regrettably, as a missionary I lied when I said that I knew that the Book of Mormon and the LDS Church were true. When I was interviewed by my bishop before my mission, and then by my stake president, I was asked if I had a testimony of the restored gospel. I answered, "I believe that the Church is true, but I do not know that it is true." Both the bishop and George Pace the stake president nevertheless recommended me to serve as a missionary. George did encourage me personally to seek God in prayer for a testimony and he gave me two transcripts of speeches he had given in LDS meetings about prayer and its power. He suggested that as I sought God more deeply in prayer, I would receive the testimony of the gospel.

I continued to seek, but did not receive. LDS missionaries usually spend a month or two in what is called the Missionary Training Center before they actually go to their field of service. (At the MTC, they learn a foreign language if necessary, and, in 1979 at least, they memorized seven or eight presentations word for word called "the discussions.") While at the MTC, at my first "testimony meeting," I said, "I believe," rather than, "I know." (Testimony meetings are a common feature of LDS life, especially among missionaries. At such meetings, the participants tell of how God has shown them that the LDS Church is true and they may share other answers to prayer. They often express appreciation to God for the Church, their families, a modern prophet, and whatever else they wish to mention. "Having a testimony of the gospel" is considered a necessary stepping stone on the way to spiritual growth. It is also considered essential to the successful conversion of those with whom one shares the gospel. "A testimony of the gospel" is usually expressed in about this way: "I know that Jesus is the Christ and that He lives. I know that Joseph Smith was a modern prophet and that the Book of Mormon is true. I know that Gordon B. Hinckley is also a modern prophet and holds the keys for this dispensation." Those who can say this in good conscience are considered to have a testimony. Testimonies are said to come to a person by any number of means, from angelic visitations, to an inner witness of the Spirit, to the conclusion drawn from a life of answered prayer and experience of the Spirit's fruit. The Book of Mormon makes the promise that those who read it and ask God, will receive the knowledge from the Spirit that it is true.)

As I said, in my first testimony meeting at the MTC, I used the phrase, "I believe," rather than, "I know." Within a few minutes of the end of that testimony meeting, another one of the missionaries was speaking to me about how I needed to change what I said. Saying "I believe" was not satisfactory for a missionary. I needed to either obtain a testimony so that I could say, "I know," and then say, "I know." Or, I needed to realize that I knew, and to say "I know" based on the knowledge that I had.

(That an LDS missionary might not know that the LDS Church was true is not such a strange thing as one might imagine. In the LDS Church publication the Ensign, one general authority related how a missionary in a similar situation had received his testimony when the prophet was addressing the missionaries at the MTC. )

Heber J. Grant, who later became the Mormon leader and prophet, reigning during the depression, was earlier in life made stake president. In stake conference at the time of being made stake president, he bore his testimony, saying, "I believe the gospel is true." Some members of the church protested about this to one general authority. The GA replied, "He knows the gospel is true, but he does not know that he knows it."

Spencer W. Kimball, who ruled as prophet and leader of the Mormons in the 1980's also struggled in his conscience as a missionary over whether he should say, "I believe," or "I know." So his biography reports. After a struggle, LDS pressures won out over conscience, and he said, "I know."
About seven years ago, there was a PBS documentary done on the LDS Church and its missionaries. Several returned missionaries admitted that they did not "know" the church was true, even while they had said they did as a missionary.

So, for your information, one of the LDS secrets is that there is a great deal of peer pressure on missionaries to say, "I know," whether or not they do. When you hear a missionary or any LDS for that matter say, "I know that the LDS Church is true," ask them how they know. For anything other than that God appeared to them, ask them how they know it was God. Ask them what else "God" has told them, so that you can see what track record their god has. Feel free to tell them you know by the Holy Spirit that there is only one God. Ask them why you should believe what the "Holy Spirit" tells them any more than what the Holy Spirit tells you.
I had been praying to know whether or not the Church was true prior to this testimony meeting and the encouragement of the other missionary to resolve this situation increased my desire. I continued to pray, but God said nothing to me. I was at the MTC for two months, for I served my LDS mission in France. After having been at the MTC a few weeks, I went to my MTC branch president and explained my situation to him about not knowing that the LDS Church was true. We talked and prayed. After prayer, my branch president said he felt that before I left the MTC, I would receive my testimony.

I did not, but after a few more weeks I rationalized in my mind that I could say I knew the gospel was true. However, even as a missionary, I was reluctant to say this. I preferred to say that I felt the gospel was true, and so I said when I could.
I would note that while I lied, I did so while feeling caught by my obligation to serve God. I had been taught that it was my duty to serve God as missionary, that "every worthy young man should serve a mission." I had been taught those who prayed sincerely and in righteousness would receive a testimony and if they had not, one chief reason would be that they were not recognizing the answer God was giving.

Prior to my mission, I had been given blessings by Brad Thompson, and was set apart for my mission by George Pace the stake president. During my mission, I kept in contact with Brad by letter. In the blessing of Brad, the setting apart by George Pace and Brad's ongoing letters, prophecies were given to me of great success that I would have as a missionary. Among others, Brad prophesied that in my missionary success, I would change for the better the LDS missionary work in SW France, which is where I was a missionary. He said I would have such success that other missionaries would see it and come to me to learn how to copy it.
If such prophecies had been fulfilled it would have been quite clear. The year before I arrived in my mission, the average converts per missionary were less than one per year. Nevertheless, during my mission, I put my heart into seeing Brad's prophecies fulfilled. Brad had taught that for any blessing within the gospel, one may obtain it by discovering the law upon which it is predicated, and obeying that law. He believed that great things could be accomplished, by listening to the Spirit and obeying its promptings.

It should be noted that I had not put my trust in Brad "blindly." During the year that he was my elders' quorum president, he had given me three "priesthood blessings." (A priesthood blessing would be something like an inspired prayer and/or prophecy. The LDS believe that the blessings of Jacob and of Moses on the 12 tribes were such blessings. In these blessings, God may inspire the one speaking with fitting words of counsel, promises of healing and/or prophecy. In addition to all other Mormon priesthood holders, there are special men called patriarchs, whose sole responsibility in the LDS Church is to give such inspired blessings. Many such blessings come to pass, and this is considered one of the evidences for the truth of Mormonism.) In one of these priesthood blessings, Brad had repeated to me some of the words of my patriarchal blessing. He had never read it nor heard of it from me. To me, it was one of many confirmations that Brad did speak for God and did "see."

As I said, I put my heart into seeing these prophecies fulfilled, but they were not. My last year as a missionary was especially emotionally traumatic for me. Brad had taught me to seek to understand the laws upon which blessings were predicated, and I was seeking to hear from God. Presumably, if I heard and obeyed God, I could receive many spiritual gifts and powers. This would make me "great" as a missionary. The Book of Mormon promises thousands of converts to those who are much in prayer. As I sought to apply whatever laws might be appropriate to my case, I came to believe that I needed to desire earnestly the blessings I sought. (Both Brad and I were influenced to some degree by the LDS book, Drawing on the Powers of Heaven by Grant Von Harrison, which advocates earnest desire for spiritual blessings as part of the way to obtain them.)

At this time, it seemed to me that if I earnestly desired these blessings, that I would weep about my not having received them. So I began to weep much during the last year or so of my mission. For prayer, I would weep about God's not talking to me. As I wept to hear God's voice, Brad continued to prophesy blessings upon my mission. Yet, none of these prophecies were fulfilled.
By the end of my mission I was heart-broken and emotionally exhausted. It seemed that God had failed me or that I had failed God. I could not understand what had gone wrong. I remember jogging one day after my mission, thinking, "It sure seems like God aims to confuse me."

At this time, my prayers changed. I would weep in despair, or I would ask God to take my life. I said that if I wasn't going to know Him, that I would rather simply be dead. After the end of my mission, I never again told anyone I knew the gospel was true.
I did not kill myself, however, as I believed it was wrong to do so. I consulted with my bishop and with Chauncey Riddle about what had gone wrong. There was no clear answer given. Chauncey Riddle promised me future understanding, in a blessing.

I also confronted Brad, seeking understanding. Over the last few months of my mission and shortly after it was over, he gave several different possible explanations. These ran from 1) the prophecies would suddenly, dramatically be fulfilled in the last few months or weeks of my mission; 2) the prophecies were fulfilled, but I did not perceive it; 3) I had planted many seeds in many hearts, fulfilling the prophecies; 4) the prophecies would yet be fulfilled; & 5) he may have added to the prophecies out of his own mind.

This, the fifth explanation, was the last one he gave me. He said that he had prophesied about the mission of Blake Ambridge, but that only half of the prophecies were fulfilled. When he asked God what had happened, God had indicated that Brad had added to God's prophecies out of his own human mind. Brad suggested that he may have done the same in my case.
For me, however, even this explanation did not satisfy me. None of Brad's prophecies were fulfilled, except a sentence about my being hated. (This appears to have been fulfilled when we visited a JW meeting and afterwards discussed the gospel with some JW. I said that their lack of "signs" indicated their lack of faith. The JW was wildly agitated by my saying so, and the next day, someone had torn down our little church sign.)

At this point in time, I was greatly discouraged. Brad encouraged me to continue to seek, saying that his own spiritual growth had come after years of struggle. However, I was no longer sure I could trust Brad to lead me rightly. Though we remained friends, I ceased to look to him for spiritual guidance.
At this point in time, I realized that I did not know what I thought I had known about God. When I thought I knew it, it had gotten me into trouble and terrible pain.
After my mission I returned to BYU. I had not yet decided what my major would be, but I loved to read and learn. I sought God about what I should make my major, but it seemed as usual that He was saying nothing. As I consulted with others and thought within myself, I decided to major in history. I figured it was the closest thing to studying religion without majoring in it, or being caught in the speculative winds of philosophy.
It was during my first year back at BYU that I met two women angels who were to encourage me in my spiritual growth. At this time, I was not seeking God much, other than to read interesting religion books in the BYU library. (Prayer had not worked much.) However, the LDS Church encourages its returned missionaries to date and to marry. As I looked over the women I knew, I saw few or none I wished to date and those few generally were already attached. So, I began to intentionally say hello to new women.

As I did so, one of the women whom I met was Cindi Higbee. (She later married Ken Godwin.) Cindy and I got together to chat at times. She shared the story of her spiritual growth with me. She encouraged me again to read the scriptures and pray.
On our 2nd or 3rd visit, as we were talking, she said, "I have a message. As you continue to seek God, you will find Him, and you will become great." I thought, "I've heard that before. That would be nice, but so far I just strike out with God."

At this time, I would have considered myself a religious and spiritual failure. At one point shortly after I returned from my mission, I ran into Bruce Worthen on campus. Bruce had been the first counselor in the elders' quorum under Brad Thomspon, and he knew that many of the elders sent out from there had been trained and encouraged by Brad. Bruce asked me how my mission had gone. I said, "Badly." Without skipping a beat, he changed the subject.
I had tried to seek and find God and yet He had said nothing to me. Prophecies had been made about my mission and my life. Since the prophecies about my mission were not fulfilled, I assumed it was unlikely that any others about my life would be either. I wept.
Also, since I knew rationally that God can't fail people, I assumed that whatever had gone wrong must have been in myself. I must have failed God somehow, even if I could not understand how. For the LDS reading this, for what it matters, I was not guilty of masturbation or other unchastity. Many LDS would read what I have written and ask if there was not some secret, unconfessed and hidden sin in my life that was hindering me from hearing from God. I spoke honestly with my priesthood leaders in my interviews, and many of them, presumably inspired, gave me priesthood blessings of promise and glory.

I assumed that God would not use me much in His kingdom. I did not know if the LDS Church were true and thus would not say that I knew. In my BYU wards of mostly freshmen, I was a priori disqualified from any kind of leadership or teaching responsibility. This was true, even though, because of my continuous reading of LDS literature, I tended to know LDS doctrine far better than those called to lead and to teach. The best I could see, this situation was going to continue forever. I was despised and rejected of God. After all, if anyone was in a position to receive from God the knowledge of whether or not the Church were true, it should have been me, as an LDS missionary or beforehand.

Also, I had by this time began to wonder if I were not spiritually deaf. Just as some people are born physically deaf, I wondered if I were spiritually deaf. Most of my friends around me heard from God, or so they said, and yet I did not. Why? What was wrong? I had been seeking God earnestly for four years (1977-1981) and yet I was not hearing from Him like the others. Basically, I felt spiritually inferior and rejected.

In my prayers, I had not simply prayed for blessings and glory, but I had asked God to show me whatever sins and faults I might have within myself and to help me become more like the Savior. Brad had taught me that God can work in us more greatly as we put away even minor sins or faults that may be in our lives. He taught me to pray that God help me to become more like Christ and to be a blessing to other people. So, I had prayed, "God, show me my sins!" Yet, even to that prayer God had been silent.
It just did not make sense. If there was any prayer that God would be likely to answer, it should have been that one, or so it seemed. Yet God here too was silent, or I was not hearing. Either way, that meant woe to me. Woe, woe, woe to David.
So, I felt very badly about my relationship with God at this point in time. When Cindi promised me that I would find God and be great, I thought, "Yes, you and Brad Thompson my elders' quorum president in 1977, and Steven Broadbent, my elders' quorum president in 1978, and George Pace, my stake president, and elder Daniel Lemire, fellow missionary say so. The others have all been wrong." Yet, I hoped.

Now, as Christians evangelize, they are to bring the lost to an awareness of their lost state. "Before a man can be found, he must first be lost. Salvation begins with our recognition of our need for God," says the wise evangelist. Jesus said, "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of God."
I had never had a Christian tell me I was lost, not even while I was a missionary. Yet, I was as convinced of it as I could be, and still know that God had grace. I did not see myself as spiritually dead--only blind, deaf, dumb and unable to move. How I wished to see and hear, and yet I could not!! God's silence even led me to doubt His love for me.
After I left the LDS Church, I have told my story to other LDS. Generally, I do not get far before they are explaining to me my spiritual mistakes. My various spiritual mistakes, according to them, run as follows, though each LDS has a slightly different list:1) it was your first mistake to pray for angels to teach you, when you had bishops and other church leaders to teach you;2) it was a mistake to give much credence to Brad, George Pace and Chauncey Riddle, if at any point they taught ideas not taught by the general authorities. Since each of them taught "strange doctrines," you should have disregarded their teachings;3) it was a mistake to believe that an elders' quorum president could prophesy about your life in matters outside his jurisdiction as EQ president, specifically, about your mission and the rest of your life;4) it was a mistake to insist about being absolutely certain about whether or not the Church is true, when in fact one must have some degree of faith;5) it was a mistake to believe, based on Brad's teachings, that God might give you doctrinal information He had not given a priesthood leader of yours;6) it was a mistake to believe that God would use you in a special way, above the way he was using your priesthood leaders;7) it was a mistake to not know and believe that God honors His priesthood authority, by His telling His prophets, and by extension, all priesthood leaders, all that would be helpful. Thus, there was no need for me to expect any special revelation from God to me during my mission. There was, in fact, no further need to God to speak to me even after my mission, about doctrinal matters. My sole duty was to believe and obey what He had already revealed in and through the LDS Church.

Further, some suggest that I was emotionally ill. There is no doubt that I was. The only question is what was the cause and the exact nature of my "mental illness." They suggest that, in a mild form, I was suffering delusions of grandeur, caused by my close association with that other fellow, Brad Thompson, who happened to be my EQ president when I first came to BYU. He also, in his own way, suffered delusions of grandeur. In a way, this suggestion is no doubt true. The only question is as to whether Mormonism itself feeds such delusions.
In any case, there is a short answer to the charge that I made a series of spiritual mistakes that led me out of the LDS Church. The patriarch, in my patriarchal blessing, had promised, "When you serve your mission, you will have a correct understanding of the gospel." When I served my mission, I believed in full form, or in seed form, all the spiritual errors that the LDS later held to be responsible, first for my spiritual despair in 1981, and later, for my leaving the LDS Church in 1985. The only matter left unknown in 1981 was how my "spiritual errors" would resolve themselves.

So, there I was in 1981. I was in serious despair about my relationship with God. I considered myself rejected of God. Yet, I harbored hopes that I might find and know Him. I pondered promises/delusions of grandeur planted by four successive priesthood leaders/holders. Now another promise was being delivered by a friend I had met saying hello to unknown, attractive women on the BYU campus, looking for potential dates.

Before I go further, I would note that I seemed to be inadvertently applying one the principles Max Gunther discusses in his book the Luck Factor, (pub. 1970's). Gunther studied lucky and unlucky people. He found that there were five characteristics in particular that seemed to separate the lucky from the unlucky. People could change their luck by applying these principles.

The first of the five principles was what Gunther called the Spiderweb. He noted that lucky people tended to make friends easily and to keep in touch with friends. They were warm and at times helpful to others. They liked meeting new people. They enjoyed hearing of the lives and growth of others, and were willing to share their own. Generally, they did not let some flaw or defect prevent them from mingling. They unlucky behaved in the opposite way.

The result of this behavior was that a person would develop a network of friends. When good luck came or had come to one or several of those friends, they would often share it with their friends. Thus, the friendly person seems to have better luck in a large number of areas, compared to the unfriendly. However, some would not call it luck.

We see that this is actually a Biblical principle. The Bible says, "Be not forgetful to receive strangers, for in so doing, many have received angels unawares," Hebrews 13:2. Jesus says that he would receive those who take in strangers, and reject those who do not, Mt. 25:31-46. The Old Testament stories of Sodom and Gomorrah show the destruction God brings on those who mistreat strangers.

During this time, several men noticed what I was doing and asked me, "How can you go up and talk to a woman you don't know? I could never do that." I said, "As a missionary I knocked on thousands of doors of people I did not know. This is no different."
Some said, "It is not the same. Someone might reject you!"
Yes, I already knew that. How terrible!

In early 1982 I met Dawn Schroeder. The first time I met Dawn was perfectly normal. I said hello to her on the sidewalk and we chatted for a while as she continued on her journey. We separated and I thought nothing more of it.
About a week later, I was chatting with another woman on the sidewalk, walking west. That conversation finished and we separated. I looked around to see if there were any other women with whom I might wish to speak. On the same sidewalk, walking east, forty or so feet away, was such a woman and I decided to catch up to her.
I began walking quickly towards her. I looked away briefly. Then, she had turned around & was waiting for me! "Was there any particular reason you turned and waited?"
She said, "Yes. I felt to."
I asked her more about that. I said she was most unusual as only woman I knew to ever turn around and wait. Was there anything different about her to cause this?
She replied that, actually, she did spend 20 or 30 minutes a day in prayer, and she knew that most people did not. Here was the sister of George Pace, or, his daughter!
[Part 2]
After I had finished my mission, and when I felt in great despair about my relationship with God, I wondered if God would send me any more "messages" as He might have through Brad, George and Chauncey. After my conversations with Cindi Godwin and Dawn Schroeder, in 1981 and 1982, it seemed that there was an additional message from God to me. It was, "Keep trying and you will find." God used the circumstances of my life to say that I ought always to pray and not to give up, Luke 18:1. With this further encouragement to be much in prayer, I continued my life.
In March of 1982, Bruce R. McConkie came to BYU and delivered a "fireside" message entitled, "Our Relationship with the Lord." The message was basically a correction to a book which George Pace had written on that subject. In this message, McConkie said:
"We worship the Father and him only and no one else. We do not worship the Son and we do not worship the Holy Ghost. I know perfectly well what the scriptures say about worshipping Christ and Jehovah, but they are speaking in an entirely different sense--the sense of standing in awe and being reverentially grateful to Him who has redeemed us. Worship in the true and saving sense is reserved for God the first, the Creator."
He also said the LDS "should not strive for a special and personal relationship with Christ." These words were "the doctrine of the Church" and "everyone who is sound spiritually and who has guidance of the Holy Spirit will believe my words and follow my counsel."
He says, "I shall summarize the true doctrine in the field and invite erring teachers and beguiled students to repent . . .There are yet others who have an extensive zeal which causes them to go beyond the mark. Their desire for excellence is inordinate. In an effort to be truer than true they devote themselves to gaining a special, personal relationship with Christ that is both improper and perilous.
I say perilous because this course, particularly in the lives of some who are spiritually immature, is a gospel hobby which creates an unwholesome holier-than-thou attitude. In some instances it leads to despondency because the seeker after perfection knows he is not living the way that supposes he should.
Another peril is that those so involved often begin to pray directly to Christ because of some special friendship they feel has been developed. In this connection a current and unwise book, which advocates gaining a special relationship with Jesus, contains this sentence: 'Because the Savior is our mediator, our prayers go through Christ to the Father, and the Father answers our prayers through his Son.'
This is plain sectarian nonsense. Our prayers are addressed to the Father, and to him only. . . Now I know that some may be offended at the counsel that they should not strive for a special and personal relationship with Christ. . ."
At the time, I remember that some of my friends and I felt sorry about this public rebuke of George Pace. I had not taken any religion classes from Pace, but I knew that as a religion teacher he was one of the most popular, if not, the most popular, on campus. BYU students were hungry to hear from this man who seemed to know Jesus personally.
In retrospect, I realized that each of my first three angels had been rebuked and muzzled at some point by ecclesiastical leaders for teaching some unapproved doctrine.
Nevertheless, I had just seen some of the results of some of this unapproved doctrine. Dawn Schroeder had turned around and waited for me on a BYU sidewalk.
I noted previously that by this time I had been brought to a point of great spiritual despair. At least McConkie will come to my aid, for apparently I was not alone. He says, "In some instances it leads to despondency . . ."
At this point, my life takes a new twist. I did not have any particular plans for the summer of 1982, and one of my dorm friends, with some other BYU students, was planning to go to Taiwan. One could study Mandarin and teach or tutor English to pay expenses. This idea appealed to me; I thought it would broaden my education. My parents were willing to pay for my airfare to Taiwan, and so I made plans to go.
I arrived in Taiwan around May of 1982. I settled into a simple life. For a few hours every day I studied Mandarin at a school. For another few hours I taught English to private students. There were no BYU women to pursue on the sidewalk, and within a few weeks I had read whatever English reading material I had.
During this point in time, I began again to try to take an hour every day for prayer. It is not that I necessarily succeeded every day. Sometimes I felt asleep when nothing was going on. Some days, my errands and other matters kept me tied up. Yet, many days I would pray for about an hour.
As an LDS, I had mostly thought of prayer as asking God for blessings and/or asking God questions. So, during my hour of prayer I would ask God for every possible blessing & for every possible spiritual gift of which I could think. I asked God every possible question. Perhaps we will laugh about it now, but back in 1982 I asked God about dinosaurs, about evolution, and about UFOs. I asked Jesus to show Himself to me personally and visibly. I asked God many questions about more ordinary aspects of LDS doctrine as well. I asked God for the gifts of prophecy, tongues, interpretation of tongues, healings, miracles, & a mouth and a wisdom that no one could contradict.
However, even all these requests did not necessarily take up an hour of time. So, during some of that hour, I would sit and think about anything other question I might ask God or any other blessing for which I might ask Him. As I remember, I even asked God to restore polygamy. Saying hello to women on the sidewalk was fun and I did not necessarily want that to stop even if I got married.
This time, compared to my missionary and pre-missionary prayer times, I was not particularly pursuing great glory by being of great service to God. I was simply doing what seemed to me to have worked in the lives of George Pace and Dawn Schroeder.
About six weeks after being in Taiwan, and after a period of relatively regular prayer time, I came across a Christian bookstore. As I wanted more English material to read, I went in and began to look over the biography section. (I figured that the Christians were more than likely seriously wrong in most of their books on doctrine. However, as a Mormon, I had been taught to keep a journal, and, at some point, to write a personal history. For a Mormon, his journal and personal history would be considered a form of scripture in time to come to his descendants, for they record the working of God in his life. So, I figured that the Christian biographies had the most chance of being helpful to me, and were the least likely to do spiritual harm. After all, the biographies were surely not written to persuade me to leave the LDS Church.) So I picked up and bought I Dared to Call Him Father by Bilquis Sheik and Lord of the Air by Tal Brooke.
These two books were the first two Christian biographies I read in my life. The closest I had come to reading Christian literature prior to this time was reading The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey when I was a teenager. (That was wild speculation about the book of Revelation, and it had been pointless in helping me grow spiritually.) Also, when I had been a missionary, I had met one family, out of the thousands of doors on which we had knocked, which attended "the evangelical church." The father told us that God answered the prayers of him and of his children. I remember wondering about that. Why did God answer their prayers and not mine, as an LDS missionary?
Then, at one point, as a missionary, we had even visited a Pentecostal evangelistic meeting. The speaker told of how he had been without God and seriously ill, and had been healed by the prayers of some Christian friends. He himself had then become a Christian. At times when he prayed for the sick, now, they also were healed. I remember being puzzled about this. Did God actually work through this fellow? Anyway, I took his printed testimony and glued it into my missionary journal. I remember some missionaries saying that this kind of healing was often the work of the devil. It was done, they said, to lead others away from the restored gospel. Others said that if a person had faith, God might heal even if the one praying did not have LDS priesthood authority.
Anyway, I read these two little Christian biographies. Lord of the Air is the story of how Tal Brooke had been a spiritual seeker, in the 60's I believe. He had traveled to India, met a bunch of gurus and got involved with Sai Baba. Sai Baba really did do actual miracles, but over a period of time, Brooke realized that Baba's power was not necessarily of God. Tal left Baba and became a Christian.
In some respects, I Dared to Call Him Father by Bilquis Sheik was more interesting. Bilquis had been a Moslem, but was seeking spiritual peace. Through a series of dreams and visions and other supernatural incidents, she comes to faith in Christ and the Bible, rather than the Koran. She hears God's voice clearly at one point. She was learning to pray and was troubled over which book was God's. Was it the Bible or the Koran? She called out, "Father, father, father," and as she did so, she sensed the presence of God enter her room. She then said to God, "Which of these books is your book, Father?"
God replied, "In which book do you learn to call Me Father?"
Bilquis realized that God was indicating that the Bible was His book. She began to walk as a Christian. Following God's leading, she baptized herself in her bathtub, and prayed to receive the Holy Spirit. Even after her conversion, visions, dreams and supernatural knowledge continued in her life. Together with these supernatural events, the Spirit would convict her of sin, at times. While under conviction, Bilquis would lose her sense of peace and joy; when she would repent, peace and joy would return.
As I read this book, I thought to myself how much this seemed like how the Holy Spirit should be operating in a person's life. Yet, this was a Christian biography. This was most peculiar!! I earnestly desired that God would work in my life as He had been in hers. At the same time, I wondered within myself if this was some sort of Satanic trick. Was this book to lead people such as myself or other Christians into believing that one did not have to be LDS and could still have an ever deepening relationship with God? As an LDS, I had been taught that nonLDS do not have the Holy Spirit as a gift. Yet Bilquis did. At least, she seemed to. Here I had another puzzle before me.
To be continued...

LEAVING THE MORMON CHURCH AFTER YEARS OF BEING A MORMON IS DIFFICULT

I recently needed to know I wasn't alone when my wife and I woke up and realized the LDS church indoctrinates its members with many false teachings. I won't give you another life travel log, but thought I'd instead demonstrate why I think it is so difficult to leave the Mormon faith.
I've been going through a post-Mormon experience with my wife and family for about 4 months now [May 1996] (it was completely unexpected, at least for us). My wife and kids have been able to adjust well to a Christian life during this time. However, I've continued to struggle off-and-on with how I could have such strong beliefs that the LDS church is false yet still have the Church continually on my mind.


Ironically, most non-Mormons wonder why my exodus has affected me so deeply. They figure, "If it Mormonism was working for your family, what was the problem?" (A lot of Mormons have said the same thing.) It seems that the former Mormon has very few people who understand.
I wrote down some thoughts about the Mormon perspective. This has helped me see why it's so difficult to leave the LDS church. These points are all official doctrines of the Church and perspectives that are regularly ingrained into the membership. What blows me away now is that maintaining just a couple of these perspectives often keeps a Mormon in the Church. Imagine (I guess you already have) how difficult it is to recover from a few of these faulty perspectives, let alone all of them!


As a Mormon you believe that (in no particular order)...
Historical facts and opinions which go contrary to official Mormon teachings are by definition false and unworthy of study because they do not promote the your faith in the Church.
The final test of truthfulness is if you feel good about an issue ("burning in the bosom", warmth, elation).


Joseph Smith has done more for you and all of mankind than anyone, except Jesus Christ.

The Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, and D&C never contradict themselves or the Bible. They are all in perfect agreement. You accept at least one of the various explanations of the Church leaders.


The Bible has been altered by evil and inept men and is therefore unreliable (on its own) as the final word on Christian doctrine.

Having been to the temple, you are 95% percent of the way to the Celestial Kingdom and Godhood. You just need to endure to the end.

The secret temple ceremony is the same as was practiced in ancient Israel (and maybe even in the pyramids of Egypt, according to some Mormon apologetics). The Masons received elements of the ceremonies through an uninterrupted chain of masons, beginning with the masons of the temple of Solomon. God told Joseph Smith how to perform the ceremonies after Joseph saw the Masons do something similar.


The Church's doctrinal stance of polygamy, blacks and the priesthood, and the nature of God haven't changed in any significant way over the years since the Church began. For that matter, not a single significant doctrinal issue has changed.

It's OK for God to encourage man to commit deceit as he did when telling Abraham (in the Mormons' Book of Abraham) to deceive Pharaoh about his wife Sarah. God can do whatever he wants through his servants, even if it involves deceit. Joseph Smith (and more recent Apostles) has said that what is wrong in one circumstance can sometimes be, and often is, right under another. (Note: A very conservative Mormon may even assert that Abraham did not deceive Pharaoh in any way, and thereby brush aside having to deal with the issue.)

Non-Mormons belong to the Church of the Devil as it states in 2 Nephi, even (especially?) those that profess Christianity.


When an Apostle or Prophet says something that is accepted to be true, he is directly inspired by God. When he says something that turns out to be false, he was speaking as a man. But either way, it's no matter to you. These men will never lead you astray.

And you believe that...
The Book of Mormon is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet, and, since it comes from the Church, the Church and all its doctrines must be true.

OR

The Church must be true because it has had a good influence on your family. This helps you accept its official history and doctrines as being the truth.


The unique doctrines and ceremonies that you have as a Mormon are mandatory for the Godhood, to which you aspire. Without these things, you'd be kicking yourself for the eternities saying something like, "If only I had fully accepted the doctrine of the LDS Church, then I could have become a God."

Hypothetically, if the LDS church weren't true, no other organization could possibly have truth since you already believe that they are all false (interesting logic, eh). If the Mormon church is false, then you are convinced that all churches devoid of truth.

Any opposing forces to the Church help prove to you that the Church must be true, especially in light of the Book of Mormon teachings on opposition.


Anything written by a former Mormon must be false or, at best, unreliable. Bottom line, you believe that former Mormons have evil intentions.

Former Mormons leave the Church because of serious sin. Those who leave the Church in reality know that the Church is true and are liars just like the Book of Mormon anti-Christs.

You have so many authorized Church books to read and Church jobs to do that you don't have time or inclination to read any information that may go contrary to the Church.

Even if the Mormon church weren't true, it teaches good values to your family and that's good enough.

BECKY AND HER FAMILY DESCOVER THE REAL TRUTH ABOUT THEE MORMON CHURCH

A story of a family who recently discovered the truth of the Mormon Church

I'm Becky


I was born into the Church in 1957. I am the youngest of six children who are all active in the church, married in the Temple, etc. The whole time I was growing up I never really had a testimony of the church, and as I got older I was even embarrassed to admit that I was a Mormon. I guess it was because of the "sixties", short skirts, peace, love and freedom that I felt restricted to the dress standards, the word of wisdom and being forced to go to seminary at 6:00 in the morning. I remember my grandmother who was a member of the church, but who I was very close to as she was an invalid and I would spend the night there alot to help her with things, saying "What an un-Godly hour of the morning to have to get up and go to church." I thought she was pretty cool about that.

I ended up moving out of my parents house on my 18th birthday. I couldn't wait to get out from under the suppression. My parents were and are very nice people, both educated but they were so busy just trying to make ends meet(my mom went to work as a school teacher when I was in kindergarten)with six children, that they really didn't have time to give us alot of individual positive attention. I felt that the only thing they cared about was making sure we went to church and were involved in all the church activities. In high school I wanted to join this Christian club; they would go on picnics, hold hands in a big circle and talk about Christ out in a field of wild flowers.

I thought it was really cool and alot of the nice kids at school were involved. But my parents didn't want me to join because it wasn't an LDS activity. They were so afraid to let me do anything that wasn't church related. I ended sneaking around just to feel like I fit in.
I had graduated from high school a year early and my parents sent me to BYU. I went for one semester and then came home as the money was running out and I needed to go to work. I never even thought about continuing my education at BYU as I didn't register for classes for the following semester and there was no mention of even attending the local community college. I was young and naive and having been raised to grow up and get married, education was not the first priority for me then. I think my parents were hoping I'd find a nice return missionary and get married. I look back now and wish they had discussed education and goals for my own future more rather than worrying about my commitment in the church.


But on my 18th birthday I moved out. My boyfriend came with his van and I left with a few of my belongings to go live with my older sister who was not active at all in the church. I eventually ended up living with Dave for about 6 months before we got married. I was totally in love and completely happy. We have been married now for 20 years. We are still in love and happy although we've been through alot together and have had our ups and downs like most couples. After we were married for about six months we moved to Michigan and lived near my husbands relatives. They were all either Baptists or Pentecostals and so going to their churches seemed a little different. I thought that if I was going to start going to church that I would rather go to my church. You see by that time I was getting homesick for California and after having my first child I felt like I needed my family.


So I guess the church was the closest thing to that. Dave ended up getting baptized as he couldn't find anything in the Book of Mormon that contradicted the Bible. We were sealed in the Washington DC temple and ended up becoming very active in the branch; Dave was Elder's quorum president and I was in the relief society presidency, we were both visiting teachers, etc. By the time I had my third child I was becoming very depressed. I would come home from church on Sunday and end up crying as it was all too much to take. I couldn't do it all. I was trying to be the perfect wife, mother, and member of the church. I would end up scolding my kids if they interrupted my when preparing the "perfect" relief society lesson. I would can our home garden vegetables, make bread and use cloth diapers even though I could buy vegetables, bread and disposable diapers at the store! You know the saying "Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without"? We made a cloth banner with that saying at a RS homemaking meeting.
Dave's family was not very happy about our membership in the church, but they pretty much left us alone about it.


They were very loving, caring people that didn't judge others and accepted people even though there were differences in opinions of religion or politics. There was only one time that an aunt and uncle tried to show us some "anti-Mormon" literature, but I couldn't deal with hearing anything negative about the whole essence of my upbringing, so of course I wouldn't even look at the information they were trying to show us. After that they never mentioned our religion but only loved us and loved me like I was their own daughter and niece.

Anyway, about the time I was overwhelmed by the church, we moved back to California. It was really easy to not go to church and so we didn't. It was such a nice feeling having that freedom and be able to spend all our time being involved with our children and building our life here Northern California. My husband was very busy with his business and I've been able to be a stay at home mom. I've tried taking a few college classes, but I am going to wait and go back after the kids are all off to college. Right now my oldest daughter is getting ready to graduate from HS, my son is a junior and will be graduating next year and our youngest is a freshman and will be gone in about three years.

I feel like I'm getting boring so I'll try to get on with it. I guess I'm writing this not only to tell you my story, but to bring how I feel together in words.
Anyway, a few years ago, about three, my husband and I were not getting along very well. There were a few things in our lives that were causing stress on our relationship that I don't have time to go into now. We came to a decision along with our kids that it might be nice to start going to a church. We thought this might be the thing that would help bring us together and maybe adding a spiritual dimension to our life would be good for the family. The kids don't really remember going to church much in Michigan, as my oldest was about 5 when we went inactive.(At the time I remember thinking that I didn't want my kids baptized in the LDS church and go through the same guilt trips that I had.) The kids suggested we go to the Mormon church since that was the church that all their cousins went to on my side of the family.


At this point I thought it would be all right to go because I thought the kids probably wouldn't like it, (I hadn't at that age) and because of the problems we were having I thought that maybe it would even help. Well, on our way out of the church that first day we went back I asked the kids how they liked it and my son had already made an appointment with the missionaries for the next evening! This missionary was really "cool", a snowboarder and also rode dirtbikes. Right up my son's alley. I thought to myself "oh boy, here we go again!"
For the last few months I've been mad at myself for making the decision to go back to the church, but on the other hand maybe it's OK because by going back for the second time I have been able to deal with all those haunting questions I've had about the church my whole life. We ended up continuing to go, the kids all got baptized and my husband and myself went back to the temple.


That was the first thing that bothered me. I noticed that the temple ceremony was different. A sister told me they had made a new film but I noticed that the ceremony was also different. I didn't say anything to anyone because your not supposed to discuss those things outside the temple, and I felt strange bringing up the question in the celestial room. That was not the time to question anyone. I had also forgotten my name but my husband remembered that. I didn't realize until I read one of the letters on this website that the name you received when doing an endowment for the dead was given to everyone. Here I would try so hard not to forget the name and all along the person sitting next to me had the same name? Unbelievable! But the very first time I went through the endowment I was pretty freaked out. I remember the "penalties" and at the time felt it was really cultish. I was never prepared for that, but my mom and dad were there, so I thought they understood everything and it was something they did all the time. I never really questioned it until the time we went through again and realized that part of the endowment had been deleted.

That was about a year and a half ago and as I had become very active again that feeling of the church controlling my life was starting to take over as it had in the past. As I was feeling controlled by the organizations many requirements, the old questions started creeping back in my mind. What about the Blacks and the priesthood? Why would God hold the descendants of Cain accountable for his transgression? Weren't all the people on the earth God's children? Why did He decide that in 1977 [1978] they all of a sudden became worthy to receive the priesthood? And what about polygamy? I didn't agree with that. Also, as a Young Women leader I saw things I didn't agree with. There was a lesson at Girls Camp on "How to correctly bear your testimony" The girls were told in a real nice way exactly what they should and should not say. That seemed a little too much like mind control for me. Then when I realized that the pressure was on to have my son prepare for a mission I started thinking. Between the changes in the temple ceremony, polygamy, the blacks and the priesthood, I began to have my doubt's that the church was the ONLY true church on the earth.

What about all those other people of other religions that are wonderful, caring and giving? People like Mother Teresa? I don't think God will hold someone like her back from eternal happiness because she's not a member of the LDS church. I asked my Bishop why all those people work so hard all their lives doing genealogy work and doing all that temple work for the dead when there's no way they will ever have the names of all the people who lived and died since Noah? The church leaders say that somehow that will be "taken care of", we don't need to worry about that as long as we do all we can to get the information that is available. Why not just say "It's all taken care of."? It would sure save alot of work. My Bishop said maybe it's "to keep people busy?" He didn't have a very great answer for me.

My husband and I both feel that if our son is going to go on a mission for 2 years in the prime of his life, spend at least $15,000, put off college for 2 years to come home, get married,(he'll need to do that to stay worthy), start a family(the pressure is on for young couples to start having a family-that's what the church is all about)only to have just one year of college under his belt, struggle to finish school with a young family, then he had better make sure the church is REALLY true! I feel that is NOT the only true religion on earth, that all religions are true to a point, because religious leaders are only human and are fallible. That's where faith comes in.
So I quit going to church, it feels like stepping out of quick sand.


My husband feels somewhat the same, but it's easier for him as he was a convert. Growing up in the church has had a deeper effect on me. The church has a lot of good things, but having all the decisions made for me growing up has made me insecure about making my own decisions and given me alot of guilt trips for not doing more, being more, etc. I feel that my children have only seen the sanitized version of the LDS church, the fun youth activities, EFY, girls camp etc. They really don't know the deep doctrinal foundations of the church. They wouldn't know some of those things until they go on missions, go to the temple, hear things in the adult gospel doctrine class that they really didn't get in seminary or Sunday school. And they would only see what the church decides to show them. When they do big reports for school, they are always required to have usually at least 5 sources of information for the bibliography. I feel that we need to see some of the other sources of information in regards to the church to make an intelligent, rational, life changing decision.

A few months ago I told my husband that it would sure be nice to talk to some other people about how I feel that have been where I am now. We know of a few people in our community that are inactive because of intellectual reasons and to talk to them would be interesting. But I felt that this is such a personal thing, it might be intruding to ask people we really don't know personally about why they left the church. So we just kept it to ourselves. Then one night my husband found your website. It was what we were looking for. After reading some of the stories I finally felt validated about my feelings. I was glad to see that there were other people that had the same feelings and questions as myself. I ordered a few books such as "The Refiner's Fire" and "No Man Knows My History". Also some stuff from the Tanner's about the changes in the temple ceremony that finally spelled out my own findings. It's all so interesting to realize how the church has rewritten its history, although it really makes sense being how perfect Joseph Smith sounds from the lessons at church. I was so tired of always hearing about Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, the pioneers, the church programs, meetings, meetings, meetings instead of Jesus Christ and his teachings only once in awhile. It just seemed out of balance. Even when I was in primary, when I got to the class where they start teaching you about the Doctrine and Covenants, etc., I never liked all that hell, fire and damnation! It just didn't sound as Christian as the New Testament.

So even though I'm not a scholar or historian I've had those doubt's even before seeing any real data that challenges the church's claims. I feel it's like a sixth sense, a woman's intuition, I don't know, it's just something you feel, but have to research in order to know for sure. I've always been too trusting and taught never to question authority, so it takes effort for me to be assertive and not give in to other peoples expectations. I feel really good right now about stepping outside the boundaries and looking in from another perspective.
Right now my only problem is my kids having their bubble burst. Taking off the rose colored lenses and looking at their new religion with rationality and not just emotion. My youngest child is not having too much trouble with this whole thing because she doesn't like being told how to dress, talk, feel, etc. anyway. My son is not sure about a mission anyway, but he's one of those great kids that wants to do the right thing and doesn't really want to deal with finding out what he believes is true, may not be. My other daughter is now 18 and wants to believe, so I don't quite know how to deal with this other than just continuing to love them alot and talking to them as adults and hope they can have an open mind.


You have my permission to share this letter on the website and I would like to hear from anyone who might have similar feelings or experiences as myself and want to communicate with me in a positive way.
This has been an exciting last few weeks for me after finding this website and it's been great to be able to put into words some of my feelings and experiences. There's alot more I could go into, but for now I feel like this is a good start.

Becky


IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BECKY PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT HER
dchene@snowcrest.net

A YOUNG WOMAN TALKS ABOUT HER BECOMING A CONVERT AND THEN LEAVING

A young woman talks about her becoming a convert and then leaving.

I was really glad to find your web site and to realize that there are others out there who have similiar feelings and/or experiences with "the Church". I joined in July '90 and finally just last Dec. '95 had my name officially removed from the records.

When I was 21, I met a young man who befriended and comforted me after my Dad's passing, and while my Mom was dying. I was EXTREMELY vunerable at that time as I felt my whole world was being erased. He and his family took me in, and made me feel that they would always be there for me. I should've realized at that time I was nothing more than a number in their quest to reach 100 converts. I was #4.

Hindsight being 20-20...I should never have joined that Church when so much of it goes against my grain. They hide the truth (as they are so fond of saying..over and over and over again) behind a well thought out and developed marketing and advertising plan. The TRUTH is that they take their children from day one and ingrain in them the idea that they are the only true Church, and that if they don't do everything that is expected...they'll never achieve that celestial planet.

My biggest faults with Mormonism: Con Artist extraordinaire:Joe Smith

*Their refusal to come to terms that there are anti-Mormonism sentiments out there...they are [told] to just look the other way.

*"I know this Church is true". I heard that more than one more time coming from a 4 year old. She doesn't know! She only knows what her family wants her to say.

*"So and so isn't a member, but she is a really nice person" Putting qualifications on people via member or not.

*HYPOCRISY with the capital H there! I knew many Mormons and Elders who spoke and taught one thing, then turned around and did the other. This was one of the main things that really turned my stomach.

*Taking role in Church to [use to] verify your worthiness. I owe nothing to some man or woman to verify how worthy I am in the presence of God!

*The constant checking up on you, under the guise of social welfare. Hey, wouldn't want to lose a tither now would we??

*As you can see, I could literally go on for days and be more specific in my examples. It is just so nice to be off their roles, and have that closure to that part of my life. That church really soured me on much of the religion concept. Definitely left a mark on me.
Thanks for the oppurtunity to read your web site and for me to vent!!

You can reach me at kabts@symantec.com

I KEEP IN HIGH REGARD THE YEARS THAT I WAS IN THE MORMON CHURCH

I left the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Oct 1995 with the rest of my family (wife and four children). The transition from Mormonism to being a Christian has been very difficult.

Throughout all of my 15 years as a member (I was baptised at age 19), I had always considered myself a Christian. I believed that Christ was my savior and that through him I would someday return to my Father in Heaven.

I'm not quit sure why I left the church. I had always been active. I was an ordained Seventy (prior to a revelation which disbanded the stake seventy quorums by Ezra T. Benson) and I served in such callings as Ward Clerk, Executive Secretary, Stake Mission Presidency etc... Maybe I was feeling lonely since I had not had a similar calling in several years. Maybe it was because I started to realize that not everything that the Bishop, or other church leaders, did was through the spirit of God. Maybe the reason I left the church was because I was becoming lazy and I didn't want to do all of the things which were becoming required for me to do. For what ever reason I left this past October and it has been very difficult.

It has been difficult to get past the idea that if I'm wrong, my eternal salvation is at risk. It has been difficult as I have watched my friends walk away. They all still greet me when they see me and we still talk if we happen to be in the same area, but for the most part it has been a very lonely ride. I must say that I do have a couple of LDS friends who even though they do not support my decision to leave the church, they have still showed love to me and my family. None of my friends know that I sent a letter to the Bishop requesting the records of my family be removed from the church.

My family has been going to a Christian church since we left. I assist in the youth group, sing in the choir, and even attend Bible Study Fellowship (BSF Inc.). Each member of the family is trying to learn more about the true nature of God and Jesus Christ and get prepared to be baptised.

I know that this rode has been traveled my others and I also know that it's a tough road to travel. I keep in high regards the years that I was in the church. I hold no anger toward anyone. The church helped me and my wife through the early years of our marriage (we were married at 18 after knowing each other 3 weeks) and through the yearly years of our children. Yes I realize that much of what I learned was false. It's just difficult to come to grasp with that fact. I think that if it were easy the church would have very few members within it.
I have a lot to learn but I know that God will help me. I feel comfort knowing that God does love me and that he is willing to let his spirit enter into my heart and help me through these times. I look forward to my new road.


I don't write this letter to help others as much as I wanted to help myself. I'm not interested in becoming a guide to others to leave the Mormon church, for each person needs to make that decision based on there relationship with God.

STORY OF A COUPLE WHO FOUND OUT IN THE LATTER PART OF THEIR LIFE THAT MORMONISM IS NOT WHAT IT CLAIMS TO BE

Heartsick and betrayed

I am writing this letter to share my experiences in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This is not easy.

Let me begin by giving you a little background information. My wife and I were born in Utah. We were both baptized into the church when we were eight years old. Neither of our parents were active in the church, so we had no knowledge of spiritual matters in our childhood. Even though our parents were not active, our roots go very deep in the church. I had no organized religion in our home, but my parents taught me the value of truth and honesty, to work together as a family, to help others, to love and respect all people and to live and let live. I love my parents and thank them so much for all they sacrificed and gave to my brother and sisters and I. There were seven of us. I was taught to be responsible at a very young age because my father became ill and I had to go to work to help the family. Mom worked hard, but just could not do it all alone. Not long after that, I meet and fell in love with my wife.

It was one of those love stories. You know, love at first sight for both of us. We dated for two years and then we were married. Our first child came a year and a half later. She was the light of my life. I never realized how wonderful it was to be a dad. She was so small and helpless. Eighteen months later we had another little girl. I felt the same about her. I loved my wife and my little girls so much I felt a great responsibility to take good care of our little family. Life was a struggle like I'm sure most young people feel in trying to make ends meet and adjust to family life. We were doing reasonably well. I had learned the value of work from my parents. I was in construction and had to travel sometimes. This is when the next great change took place in our lives.

We had a terrible experience when our oldest daughter was five and our youngest three. We were living in Idaho then. I along with my two daughters and several other people were in a building when a windstorm came up and the building collapsed. Our little five year old was killed instantly by a falling beam. My wife and I were devastated. Our world turned up side down. My wife was in such shock that she had to be sedated for several days. I was numb all over. Remember, neither my wife nor I had had any religious training in our childhood. So for us this was the end of our little girl. She was dead in a cold coffin in the ground. My parents were very supportive. We stayed with them for a while.


Then one day we received a phone call from a sweet woman who said she had something she wanted to share with us. She had read the article in the paper about our daughter's death. When we arrived at her home we were welcomed in such a loving way. She said she had a tape she wanted us to listen to and so we did. The information on the tape talked about where we come from, why were here, and where we go after this life. It was every thing we wanted to hear, that our little girl was with her Heavenly Father and that someday we would be with her again. We knew nothing about any of this. We then became active members of the Mormon church. We threw our whole heart and soul into it. That was 35 years ago. We were quickly fellowshipped. We meet many wonderful people and made many friends. We were told that Christ's church had been restored to earth and that if we would do all that we were asked we could be with our daughter again. We could be an eternal family. If we did not do the things we were asked to do, we could not go where she would be, we could not be together as husband and wife, nor have our other daughter with us.


One of the first things we had to do was get ready to go to the temple so that we could be sealed together forever. We had to go to some classes to get ready to go to the temple. We had to wait a year to prove that we were worthy. That was the longest year of our lives. We wanted to be connected to our little girl again. We thought this was the only way. We were also concerned about our extended family. This was all so new to us. We wanted to share our new knowledge with them. We were close to my parents. They were like our best friends. We wanted them to be with us after this life also. We talked to them about what we were being taught. They listened the first few times, but they did not take it as seriously as we did. We talked to some of the people in our ward and were told that some make it and some do not. By make it, I mean the celestial kingdom, where families can be together forever.


We became more aggressive in talking to my parents. Finally they became angry and told us they didn't want anything to do with the church and that we were no longer welcome in their home if we kept preaching to them. Of course we immediately stopped talking to them about it. We were told by members that sometimes you have to give up your own family to do what the Lord wants you to do. We became less and less involved with my family. I look back on that now and it makes me sick and ashamed. My parents had given me all they had and I was turning my back on them. We were so taken in by the love of the members in our ward that they became our family.


We were so excited to learn all that we could about the LDS church that we started asking questions about things we did not understand. Some questions were answered, but many others were not. We were told to live by faith and that someday we would understand. We were told about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon. I was so caught up in trying to learn all that they were teaching me that I stopped asking questions and thinking for myself. That was a big mistake. I thought they knew what they were talking about and if I wanted to be with my family again I had better do what they said.


We went to the temple that next year. I did not understand any of it, but again I was told to live by faith. I was starting to form an idea of who my father in heaven was and what he was like. I felt he was someone to fear. I started looking at others not of our faith as people I had to save. Missionary work! It did not take long before my wife and I became totally converted to the Mormon way of life. We had many friends in the church. In every ward we moved into we loved the people and they loved us. They taught great family and community values. We both served in many positions including those of leadership such as in the Bishopric and as the Relief Society president. We served a two year stake mission together and two years as temple workers. During all of this time we had more children and taught them that this was the only true church on the earth today. We had been told that heavenly father and Jesus had told Joseph Smith that the rest of the churches were an abomination to them. We bore testimony to them of that.

They trusted us. We had put our many concerns and unanswered questions on the shelf and did not talk about them. Questions like polygamy, blacks not being able to hold the priesthood (that was racist to me), the Journal of Discourses and why did so many of the early leaders leave the church? Why was everything so secretive? Why was there such hostility toward the church in the early days? Why did the early church leaders talk of exterminating those who would not join the church? Why were so many people I knew, including my parents, not going to be able to be with their families and father in heaven? They were as good as many of the members of the church. Why hadn't many of Joseph's revelations come true? Why was there so many pilot programs and changes in the temple ceremony and doctrine? The list goes on and on.

We had total trust in our leaders and did all that they asked of us without question. We were taught that they had been called to their positions by God. By this time in our lives we had moved to another state and still very much influenced by the Mormon faith. We were happy, or so we thought. The pressure to be perfect was still a heavy burden to carry, but we gave it our all. We were told that if we had family prayer and family night that none of our children would go astray. Then one day I felt as if I had been hit right between the eyes. Our oldest daughter was a teenager. She was going through some of the same teenage pains that most of us feel. She was not always making good or right choices. My wife came to me one day crying. She said that she thought it was easier to lose a child in death than to lose one spiritually. After all we had been told we could be with our daughter who had died. We were concerned for our teenager. Would she make it? We had done every thing we thought our father in heaven had asked of us. It had not worked. Well life went forward.


Then one day my wife came home from Relief Society overwhelmed and crying. She said that there was no way she could do everything they wanted her to do. She had never said no to a calling. After all, we had been told that those callings came from God and he would not ask us to do anything that we could not do. She had tried so hard to be the perfect Mormon mother. Not long after that she had a nervous breakdown. We did not tell any one of our personal struggles. We thought our family just was not as good as others, so we were not being blessed.

We loved our children so much, maybe too much, because when they would do things that most normal children do when growing up, we would worry about their eternal salvation. The pressure it placed on us was tremendous. Our children were growing up fast. Our oldest was going to get married. She met a fine young man who was not a member of the church and had fallen in love. They would not be going through the temple. As I look back on that experience I am so glad they did not go to the temple, because his family would not have been able to see their own son married. Later he joined the church and they went to the temple. All of our children have been sealed in the temple and our son went on a mission.


I tell you this to help you understand how hard it is on us to have our children so dedicated to the Mormon religion.
The years went by and then upon retiring I stopped long enough to take a close look at the doctrine that had bothered me. Well know I have done that. Feelings that it was wrong came first. Then I set out to prove to myself that what I was feeling was wrong. I loved the church and the people in it. To my surprise the more I studied and asked for help and talked with others the deeper the church got itself into trouble. I had been deceived. I was sick and hurt. Things keep coming up that proved to me the church was, and had been hiding and changing information to fit their needs. I was shocked to say the least. I had been taught by my parents to be honest.


I then went into more research costing a considerable amount of money. We did not have the money in our budget but I had to know for myself. I felt because of my teaching in the church of temple marriage, eternal families, and eternal salvation I would loose allot. I continued the search even under some reservations. The truth came out. The more I studied the more I found. If the church were true and had all these problems that I have found, then if it was of god and Christ, I did not want any part of their kingdom. All of the questions that I had asked so long ago kept coming to my mind. And many more. I took them one at a time. I started to share some of my feelings with my wife and children. They thought I was crazy and that I was loosing the spirit of the lord in my life. We had been taught that if a member of the church was questioning doctrine or the leaders, that they were losing the spirit. I could understand how they felt because I had felt that same way about others who questioned or left the church. I continued to study on my own.

I know my wife felt uncomfortable, hurt, and even angry with me during this time. I continued to share my feelings whenever I felt I could, trying not to hurt the family. Well that was about four years ago. Little by little my wife started to look at the history of the church, and doing some research on her own. The church she had dedicated her very soul to was crumbling before her eyes. She did not want to believe what she was feeling, learning, and hearing. She went through such pain. It was hard for me to watch her. She had also been taught by her parents to tell the truth, not half truths, but the whole truth. The church had not done that.

My testimony

Through all of this my wife and I often cried together. The church and its teachings had been such a great influence in our lives. It contains many good things. It had reminded us of who Christ is. It had given us family values and a great circle of friends, whom we are not sure will still be our friends when they find out how we feel. For the good things the church gave to us and our family we will forever be grateful. We just wish the church would tell the whole truth about its history and origin. The more we studied the more we found and the more trouble we found with the church. All the information we researched was in Mormon history books. We searched out personal journals, diaries, family histories, especially those of our own families. We were sick with what we found and continued to find. When I first started to research all of this, I was determined to prove the church was right, but that did not happen. I am at the point now that I have never been happier. Our lives are now free and we no longer carry all that guilt. The concerns that we have for our family are getting much better. We are letting them find out for themselves and they are. We are not preaching to them to get out of the church, they are finding the truth out for themselves, mainly because of our example and love. This will be their decision and we honor what ever it will be. We are so glad that it's about over. We know it will continue to take time, but we have a lot of that now. We will live our lives the way the Savior taught. He said, "love one another". No more unanswered questions, guilt, or fear, just peace.

A RETURNED MISSIONARY AND STILL A MORMON TELLS HIS STORY

My parents converted to the church when I was five. My younger brother and I were both baptized when we were eight years old. I went through the regular routine that we all did as kids. I was called to be president of all three Aaronic Priesthood Quorums. I was a seminary student and received the Outstanding Seminary Student Award for four years straight. Having always done quite well in school, I had the desire to pursue medicine as a career. I, therefore, left to attend Harvard University after my senior year in high school. Although many people speak out against a young Mormon boy attending any other school than BYU, I felt that the preparation I would receive at the world's greatest academic institution would help me to make a greater contribution to the world as a future physician. Anyway, when I was 19, I reluctantly put my education on hold to serve a mission. I was really discouraged to leave since I had a girlfriend at the time and she wasn't Mormon. I left to please my parents, although I never had a really strong testimony of the Gospel. When I entered the MTC [the Mormon run Missionary Training Center] in 1991, I was completely blown away. The rigid structure of things made me crazy at first.

Like many others whose stories I have read about, I felt as if my faith was lacking since I didn't feel the way many of the other Utah and Idaho farm boys felt about the church. I thought I was going to die at times. In the MTC, my girlfriend stopped writing me. I tried to hide this fact from the other missionaries whose girlfriends wrote on a bi- or tri-weekly basis. I stuck it out and cried silently in the bathroom at night (the only place I could get away from my companion). I continued to write to her, as I normally did, and also wrote to my parents explaining to them the difficulty of my situation. I did not have a strong testimony of Joseph Smith, nor did I know that the Book of Mormon was true. Anyways, I stuck it out and "endured till the end."

When it came time for me to leave, I felt great that my mission was finally here. I hated the MTC, as many of my companions did, and felt that things would change in the field. At first, things were incredibly difficult. My girlfriend sent me back everything I gave her and said she couldn't bear waiting two years for me. I hated my mission (Osaka, Japan), and the people who rejected us like the plague. But I stuck through it because I loved the Lord, and I knew that I wanted these people to know about Him. I realized that baptisms would not come easily in this 99% Buddhist society, so I focused upon service work. We visited elderly homes, helped farmers plant rice, cleaned local storm drains, etc. I began to love what I was doing, namely, helping others. While preaching the gospel was still my main concern, I knew that service was immediate and that setting an example was more powerful than preaching "fire and brimstone."
I left my mission with good feelings about what I had done. I did not baptize a single soul while I was in Japan. However, I handed out over 1000 copies of the Book of Mormon, blessed the sick, and knocked on thousands of doors (our only means of proselyting since members could not refer us to others in fears of jeopardizing their business relationships).

When I returned to Harvard in 1993, I was very active in the singles' ward activities. I was called to the Sunday School Presidency and was assigned to be the President of the LDSSA. However, the belief that could never escape me was the close-mindedness of the LDS members. I see this especially in reading some the responses to your web-page by members of the church. I couldn't bear the fact that all of my friends were going to be left out of exaltation because they did not go through the repetitions that I did. Many, if not most of the missionaries I encountered on my mission were doing it to "put in their time." This kind of bothered me while I was there. I sincerely believed in what I was doing. I was not doing it so that I could go home and score women at BYU. I was not doing it for my parents who love me regardless of what I do. I was doing it because I felt that the Lord wanted me to do it.

To make a long story short, I stopped going to church exactly a year after I returned from my mission. I could not bear to waste my time with people who regard themselves as superior and self-righteous. Jesus said, "by their fruits, yea shall know them." I did not see any fruits in most of the Mormons I knew, nor did I want to live like them anymore.

Unlike what many may think, I did not make my decisions because I committed some egregious and unpardonable sin. I continue to like the Word of Wisdom, Law of Chastity, and read the Book of Mormon and Bible on a daily basis. I do, however, believe in reason and the fact that the Mormon Church puts this aside really bothers me. Furthermore, the fact that many people in the Church exploit their callings my taking power-trips by stating that their word is the word of god also bothers me. In general, I consider myself a Christian who respects all that is good in the Mormon church, but fails to see results in its members. I feel bad for all those who have been persecuted by Mormons, for I know that I does go on. My parents have been subject to the maladies of gossip that takes place in every ward. My father believes that all humans are imperfect, but that should not discredit the church. I agree!! However, why should I continue to go to church when I feel sick in my stomach to see young adults treating Sacrament Meeting as a meat-market.

I continue to pray daily and strive to draw nearer to god. I want to live a life like the Savior did by healing the sick and afflicted as a physician. I find it impossible to believe that my confusion and disdain for the church puts me in disfavor with the Lord, for I am only trying to live a live like He did. I continue to strive to set a good example, and serve others like I did on my mission. If the fact that I wish to spend Sundays on the beach reflecting on the teachings of the Savior, rather than in church trying to meet girls, or catching up on the latest gossip, condemns me in the next life, than I guess I'd rather not be in whatever place the members imagine heaven to be.

I do believe that Salvation is your own. I have made it my own quest. I know God lives and Jesus is my Savior. I don't need anyone telling me how I should practice this belief. Maybe someday I'll go back to church.. or maybe I won't. I will, however, always have my memories of the good and bad that I have been subjected to as a Mormon, and no one can ever take that from me.

Note: Not all Mormons are as described. I have met many good people in the church, who I feel are good people by nature as are the multitudes of jerks I've come across. They, like myself, do not need a church to live a Christ- like life.

TEA ANYONE?


I was born into the Mormon church. My father and mother were married in the Salt Lake Temple, and my mother grew up in Salt Lake City. I am one of five children (all of which are still true believers but me). My older brother is even a scientist, one would think he would question. But they all believe blindly like sheep.

I never really bought into the whole thing. When I was about five years old our family went to my fathers office picnic. The only beverage there was iced tea! It was a hot summer day, and it looked good. When my family wasn't looking I filled up a dixie cup full of that sinful iced tea and ran into the woods. I drank it down fast and then waited to die! After about ten minutes nothing happened, of course, and I ran off to play. I never told anyone of my experience but they couldn't brain wash me after that.

I got pregnant and had a baby (unwed mother!) when I was 18. My parents sent me to live in a foster home (Mormon), and I was basically their maid, and they didn't even let me eat meals with them. It was the worst experience of my life! Of course to make things even worse I kept the baby and he was half black!!! Although the church had found an inter-racial Mormon couple in Arizona that they wanted to give my baby to. They were so furious when I said NO!!! They had done this even when I said from the beginning that I was going to keep my baby!!!
It has taken me 17 years to recover.

My son is now 16 years old. He is a straight A student, the star of his high school baseball team, and he has a very high self esteem. I am financially secure, and have great friends, and am happy. However, to this day my family still believes we are doomed. They continue to send the missionaries to my house. Whenever I move they transfer my church records to the current ward. I have told them time and time again to stop but they won't. They feel that if they keep trying I will return to the fold. My older sister who lives 1000 miles away continues to call to tell me about these great (Mormon) men she wants me to meet. They just won't give up! My mothers response to my happiness, and my sons is due to the devil. "The devil gives blessings too" is what she says when I tell her I'm happy. One time due to my complaints to the missionaries, home teachers etc. that I was not a Mormon, they sent some men to my door one night (I do not think they were missionaries-must of been a bishop or one of them). They had some kind of document for me to sign. When I answered the door they said they were from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and that they needed my signature and I would be sent to Satan. I do not remember the exact words but it was enough for me to shut the door in their faces! I felt that they didn't even deserve a second of my time.

I have downloaded several documents from the Internet about the church, temple ceremonies etc., I wish I had the courage to send copies to all of my family but they probably wouldn't even read them. Reading them has been a comfort to me and validation of my own beliefs. I never knew any factual things about the untruths of the church growing up, but after the iced tea event, I didn't need them.

A DESCENDANT FROM A MORMON PROPHET TELLS US WHY HE LEFT


I left Mormonism 10 years ago, and I still find there are times when the web of half truths and literal deceit try to threaten and disturb my peace of mind. I am even finding it difficult to write this letter.

Right now, it is as if I have a point at which I cannot think straight, and to try to express my feelings is almost impossible. I reach the foggy state of mind that some have spoken of in their stories of leaving the LDS church. For me, it was quite a journey. I am a great-great granddaughter of Wilford Woodruff, and though I was raised more a cultural Mormon, not an active Mormon, I became very active when my husband and I were married. The Temple, the callings, the whole nine yards. I literally came to the point that although I was struggling with inconsistencies, I CHOSE to not listen to my conscience - I chose to believe what I did not rationally believe.

That is almost more dangerous than one who "grows up" with a testimony. At that point, I shut the door to light and truth, locked it, and I threw away the key. Nevertheless, The Lord kept whispering to me, and still I did not listen. I wanted so badly to believe in the "perfect" Mormon ideal of family. I was miserable. When my son was 7 years old, the doubts were by then pounding at the door to be let out. I was so unhappy, but I did not believe I could ever be free from Mormonism. I thought I was doomed to struggle forever. I looked at my sweet, happy little boy, knowing that in a short while, he would be turning 8, and would have to be baptized. I remember the moment that the key I had thrown away was given back to me. I knew that I had given in to this life of anguish, but I would not, as a mother, do the same to my child. I would not sentence him to this life of imprisonment.

That is when I knew I would leave the church. I did not at that time even know what the Bible said about God. I didn't know all of the documentation that proves J.S. was a hoax, and that the Mormons are still covering up the changes, and the lies. I just knew that though I may struggle the rest of my life with the fear of their power over me, I would not, could not, sentence my innocent child to the same anguish. Does it ever get completely resolved? I still struggle, and I get so frightened of their power over my mind, because I let them have such power at one time. I am a Christian, and have been since that glorious day - I pray every day for the strength to see clearly what I know is the truth about Mormonism - that it is a cult, and a masquerader of Christianity.

I guess because I "let" them have so much power over my thoughts for all those years, I literally chose to disregard my own screams from inside my soul, that I still have times (not always) where I struggle with "Oh my God, what if I'm wrong and they're right". I tell you, I'd really rather the Lord take me home now, then ever face that kind of subjugation and misery again. I have found great comfort in the research of Jerald and Sandra Tanner. I stay away from hysterical books such as God Makers, because that particular author has an ax to grind. I clearly support and encourage and seek out factual documentation, and am always adding to my research library.....

I was just talking to [another family member], who by the way, left Mormonism about a year after I did, and we were talking about some of the weird stuff that went on in the Temple. She said her knees started to shake, and she realized she had never spoken to anyone about her experience before. We compared notes, and shared how frightened we both were, and then had some good laughs. The laugh was caused when she recounted how frightened she was that she was going to forget her "name", and in fact, she had to raise her hand and stand when they called for anyone who had forgotten their name to come forward. Her (then) husband was very critical and unforgiving and she knew how embarrassed she had made him. She wanted to crawl into a hole. Then she said to me, as she was telling this story, " if only I could have remembered the name without having to let everyone know".

I laughed. I looked at her, and said, "Honey, you could have asked the lady sitting next to you, and she would have been able to tell you". You should have seen the look on her face when she realized that all these years she had thought each person in each session in each temple in the world all had a different name for that day.


We cracked up. Then she said how funny it was to look over at her husband in "full dress" - he looked like a Chef. So yes, we did laugh, and yes, it was good for both of us! Honestly, it's kind of scary to think that I can actually talk and share with someone who has been there and knows how I feel.

GROWING UP IN MORMONISM AND BECOMING A CHRISTIAN


I was born a Mormon, in England. I don't remember many details about my early life, but I do know that when I was young, my father was tried and convicted of child pornography. He had been a teacher. My parents got divorced, and when my father got out of jail he vanished. When you're young, you don't really understand that this is unusual; you just accept. I think I was five or six when this happened; I'm not too sure. I've since found out that my oldest brother was sexually abused by my father somewhere along the line. Anyone who thinks Mormon families are immune to this sort of dysfunctionality is kidding themselves.


When I was seven or so, my mother met a Mormon man who was in the US Air Force. They were quickly engaged and married, and this man (the only person I think of as my "father") loves each of us from my mother's first marriage very much. This is not to say we haven't had our disagreements--when I was a teenager, I considered my dad somebody best avoided. But recently we've become a lot closer. Of course, I'm skipping ahead a little bit, so I'd better back up some.

All my life, I had attended church--Primary, Sunday School, Young Men, Boy Scouts, the whole bit. I believed everything I had been told, as I'd never heard anything else. When I was 13, I was called to be Deacon Quorum President--most of the other deacons weren't even remotely serious about anything church-related. I tried hard to be the best Mormon, and expected to go on a mission when I was 19.

I guess while I was in high school things got a little weird. By the time I was 14, I was very much into computers (still am, I guess ;-) and I realized I didn't have a whole lot in common with the other guys my age. The first church activity I stopped was Boy Scouts. My parents tried to encourage me to get back into Boy Scouts; when I told them I wasn't really interested in anything the Scouts routinely did (mainly getting together on Wednesday nights and screwing around for a couple of hours doing nothing) they suggested I try to integrate computers and Scouting. At the time, the Boy Scouts' idea of a computer merit badge was learning about punchcards and flowcharting. I understand this has changed now, but at that time I was already writing games in BASIC, so I didn't see a lot of common ground. Campouts were still fun, and I went on those, but the routine Boy Scout stuff was over for me.

The next thing that suffered was my Seminary studies. The first two years I was serious about it. I read everything I was supposed to read, finished all the home-study booklets (they didn't offer early morning Seminary in our ward), learned the scripture chase passages dutifully. But my junior year in high school, I just didn't care. I blew off all of the homework, although I still studied the scripture chase. (That was just memorization--I could handle that easily and compete well.) That year, my school studies also went down the tubes. I'd always been a straight-A student, but my junior year I began flunking school classes in a big way. I think I actually flunked three courses, completely. My parents couldn't understand what had happened to their "good kid", but they never stopped loving me and trying to get me to behave better. All the expectations were that I would still go on a mission, but now I wasn't so sure. I didn't see a mission fitting in with any plans to go to college--even though those plans were pretty much shot by my shoddy academic performance, I just couldn't imagine myself a Mormon missionary, when I could be going to school. But I sort of kept this to myself.

While in my senior year in high school, my father got orders to go to Germany, two months before my graduation--assuming I didn't flunk this year too, which was possible. My older two brothers and my older sister had already moved out, but I was only 17 and I wanted to finish high school. My parents and I agreed that I would stay in the US with another Mormon family in the Omaha area (where we had moved to eight years before). My younger sister, 15, would also stay in the area and complete her remaining two years of high school. My parents worried, but they knew that if anything serious happened, my older sister was still around, one of my older brothers was only as far away as Little Rock, and the church was there.

Well, the family I moved in with had three boys. The oldest was basically a psychotic hellion of about 8 years old. Part of the deal my parents had arranged with the family I was staying with was that I would babysit these children. Well, this child made babysitting very difficult. Shortly after I arrived there this child was hospitalized to try to determine why he was such a messed-up kid. After weeks of analysis, of having the child claim he heard demonic voices telling him to misbehave, of them wondering if he had multiple personalities, if he was schizophrenic, or what. When the Air Force decided to stop paying for this treatment, the hospital released him back into his parents' care. He was "better" for about a week; then he was back to his normal self. "Normal" meant that if he wanted attention, he would sit on the stairs and scream at the top of his lungs, endlessly. I was supposed to ignore this behavior, or tell him to take a "time-out", but this was about as effective as it sounds (not very). Unfortunately for me, I began to get a bit creative in my methods of dealing with this child. Once I tied his hands together and told him I wouldn't let him go until he shut up. Another time I showed him a morning star that I had. (For those of you who don't know, a morning star is a medieval weapon consisting of a thick, heavy stick with a chain at one end.

On the free end of the chain is a massive, heavy, spiked ball. It is a weapon meant to kill in a brutal fashion.) After several weeks we all went to "family counseling"; this child then told the counselor about these incidents. The counselor saw this child once a week for an hour (and he was normally impeccably mannered during this hour) so he no doubt thought my actions were completely unwarranted. They probably were, but if I'd been allowed to spank this child, I probably wouldn't have had to get creative. Nevertheless, I digress... the counselor had a social worker come by and inform this family that either I moved out or they took the child away. The family kicked me out, of course. (Later I heard that the father had molested his children, but there was never any evidence and I do not know if this was true. Even if not, this was hardly the "ideal" Mormon family.)

By this time I'd managed to (barely) graduate from high school. I'd somehow, probably on the basis of my ACT score, managed to acquire a full-tuition scholarship to the University of Nebraska at Omaha (UNO). I enrolled in school, found a cheap place to live, and kept my job at McDonald's to pay for it all. Since I had no car, I found it enormously convenient to stop going to church. I'd already stopped most other church activities while staying with this other family, but once on my own I never felt much desire to go to church. Sometimes my older sister would have a Sunday off (she was manager at a local Hardee's) and she would pick me up to go to church, but not very often. After a while I dropped out of school, and a few months later I quit my job in a fit of depression. A member of the church let me stay with him while I looked for another job, but after several months I still could not get a job.

Meanwhile, the family my younger sister was staying with had fared no better. The father had an affair, which just about ripped the family apart. (The perfect Mormon family strikes again.) My sister moved in with another family and fared much better for a while. My older sister decided she wasn't getting anywhere, and decided to join my parents in Germany. Since I had no job, and didn't think I'd be able to get one easily, I decided to go as well. Shortly after arriving in Germany, my older sister discovered that she was pregnant, from her long-time boyfriend. (I guess Mormon kids aren't really any better than other kids after all.)

So there I was in Germany, stuck on an air base in the middle of nowhere. We used to have a joke about Hahn AB: sure, it's only an hour away from anything interesting--at LEAST an hour away. Sure, you could walk off the air base any time you wanted to--but unless you spoke German (I don't), you wouldn't get very far. The only real thing to do was to be active in church, and the Mormon church certainly knew how to keep people busy, to forget how isolated they were. I was active in church again. I sang in the choir. I even started planning to go on a mission. (There was, after all, little else to do.) I met a great young woman. Life was good, and getting better.

But something happened. Somehow I never actually went on the mission. When it came time for that interview with the Bishop, where he asked me if I believed the things the Mormon church teaches (the Book of Mormon, Joseph Smith, etc.) I could not tell him that I had ever had that "burning conviction" that the "gospel" was true. So I told him that, although I had never had that feeling, that somehow I had always known it was true. What I was really saying was that I had always accepted that it was true, for no other reason than I had always been taught that it was true and that I couldn't conceive of such a large organization being false and nobody in the Mormon church knowing about it. (Okay, I was naive, but I was only 19.) I felt bad that I'd never had that conviction.

I'd read the Book of Mormon, and prayed about it... but never really felt anything. I'd stood up in Testimony meetings and borne "my" testimony, hoping that somehow I'd get one--always having been told that bearing your testimony made it stronger--but I never did. But I thought I wanted to go on a mission, so I said what I had to say.

The more I thought about it, about going for two years away from anything computer-related, the more I thought it was nutty. I had just started writing software that people were starting to notice, and things were getting better for me. At first I was heady at the thought that I was going to throw it all away, to sacrifice my future to advance the Mormon church--what could better prove that I believed the gospel, that I knew it was true? But the more I thought about it, and the closer I got to actually sending in that application, the more I thought it was lunacy to go on a mission for something I didn't believe in. I never went. I kept going to church, but nobody ever mentioned me going on a mission.

Incidentally, that nice young woman I met eventually left and, while in England, married a "good" Mormon man. This man physically abused her, beating her, and they were soon divorced. When I spoke with her last (a few years ago) she still had a difficult time talking about it. Another wonderful Mormon marriage...
When I was 21, I returned to the US and got a job in Texas, doing computer programming for a small company. Once again, I had no car; it was convenient not to go to church. Somehow I didn't miss it. I was living in such a remote location in Texas that the church didn't even try to contact me, although my parents suggested many times that I try to contact the church in the area. I didn't see the need.

In 1994, the company I worked for hired a new person. This company was so small that all three employees lived in the boss's extra house; one of us was completely intolerable to be with. So the new employee, Bryan, and I would frequently absent ourselves from the house and walk around the back country of Texas. Since we had plenty of time to talk, I decided this would be an opportune time to "preach the gospel" to Bryan.

We began by comparing religions. Bryan had been raised Christian, attended church all his life, and had been a pretty good kid. He explained Christianity to me according to the Bible, and I explained Christianity to him according to Mormon doctrine. There were numerous differences, to say the least. I was fairly certain in my convictions, and Bryan discovered that he was not certain enough of what HE believed to effectively "witness" to me.

After a short time, Bryan returned to his parents' home in Florida to retrieve some items he had stored there. Upon his return, his pastor had sent with him some information about "Mormonism" and why it wasn't Christian. Bryan began to relay bits and pieces of this information to me, things I couldn't answer. I'd never heard of the Adam-God doctrine, or the King James translation errors that appear in the Book of Mormon, or the fact that numerous changes had been made to all of the church's official "scriptures". I had no way to answer the charges he put before me. I had never been convinced that the Mormon church was really TRUE, but slowly I was becoming convinced that it had to be FALSE.

Early in 1995 Bryan and I left the company we had been working for and moved to Florida to start our own business. While staying at his parents' house, his parents shared some more information with me on the fallacies of the Mormon church. I was fairly certain by then that the Mormon church was completely wrong, but I was so frustrated with religion that I was cautious of accepting ANY religious sect as true, just so that I'd "have religion". My Book of Mormon lay closed and dusty; my weekly Church News (a Christmas gift from my parents) was routinely deposited in the trash. For a while I sort of floundered, not really sure exactly what to believe, but I knew there was a God, and that Jesus Christ died for my sins. I remember a conversation regarding religion I had with some young women at the time. Although most of those around us (we were at a wedding) were Christian, none of us at the table professed any firm convictions on the matter. All I knew was that the Mormon church was completely and totally wrong.

I had started attending church with Bryan, irregularly, and thought that perhaps there might be something there. I was distrustful, though, because I knew that so many "churches" taught nothing but fluff. Fortunately for me, Bryan attends a conservative, biblical church, where the Word of God is actually taught. I started attending weekly Bible study there, and over the course of several months, the Holy Spirit moved me to trust Jesus Christ alone for my salvation.
I don't feel bitter or angry towards the Mormon church, perhaps because I'm still young (24), and perhaps because I haven't had the harassment others have reported on leaving the Mormon church. Occasionally I receive letters from my "home teachers" in the local Mormon ward, asking me to join them in some ward activity. So far I have ignored these invitations, although I have decided if they send another, I'll respond politely, but firmly explaining that I am Christian and not Mormon, and that I am as interested in the Mormon church only as much as I'm interested in any other unsaved person.

My parents do not yet know I have left the Mormon church. I'm not entirely sure how to tell them, or my brothers and sisters and their spouses, who are all Mormon. My oldest brother claims to have left the Mormon church, but when my sister pressed him about his testimony of the Book of Mormon, he was unwilling to completely repudiate the book. I suspect he left the Mormon church only because his wife is not Mormon, and it would be inconvenient for him to be an active member, but I cannot say for sure.

Since becoming Christian, I have been amazed at the gross errors and falsehoods found in Mormonism. I'm still accumulating material on the Mormon church, mainly to try to convince my parents to leave it. I am constantly stunned at the brazen lies told by the Mormon church, its revision of its own history, and how they backpedal and retreat from positions no longer convenient to them. I have to wonder, at what level in the Mormon hierarchy do the people actually know that the whole thing is a sham?

Damien M. Jones

Dear Reader please feel free to e-mail Damien with any questions dmj@emi.net

WHY THIS LADY LEFT MORMONISM


I would like you to keep my anonymity, for reasons of my employment.
My experience may not be as traumatic as some of those on your website, but I have been perplexed by the tenacity of the members of the Mormon church. As a friend of mine put it, 'they are relentless'.


I have never been a church going person. As of June, 1995, my knowledge of scripture was limited to my childhood memories...
I decided I was interested in reading the bible and other religious scripture. I enlisted the help of several friends who had often invited me to go to church with them, and I did visit a number of churches.


I became interested in reading the book of Mormon. At that time, I had no idea how controlling and authoritarian those people could be. They told me I would not be able to understand the book by simply reading it, that they would like to 'visit me and explain the book to me'. Had they been vacuum salespeople, I suppose that would have been the proverbial foot in the door.
Their explanation soon became a series of 6 lessons, which I agreed to receive at a rate of one a week. They were very quick to tell me most people have all the lessons in one week.
During that time, I was avidly reading the book, and finding the text familiar. Now I realize that the 'familiarity' some feel when first reading the book stems from the fact that significant portions of the book are actually paraphrases from the New Testament.


By the fifth lesson I had visited the church on Sunday twice. At that point in time, I was being harassed by my ex-husband and feeling glad to be out of my home on Sundays, in a place where my ex-husband would not be able to find me. At that point, my intentions were only to continue to visit the church.

On the sixth lesson, the missionary boldly insisted that I 'set a date' for my baptism, and suggested the next Sunday. I told him I would have to think about it. He gave me one more week to think. Then they proceeded to call me every day of the week. I gave in, as they re-assured me that the content of the lessons was 'all that is needed for baptism'.

I was to soon find out that their theology was to be revealed in small installments, perhaps to make it digestible, and that all the priesthood holders believed they had authority over me.
I went to church for a total of six-seven weeks after my baptism. They were very quick to find all sorts of assignments and other activities to occupy my time. Everything was done in haste, as to not allow me time to think. I remember when they set me apart to give me a calling. It appeared to me they had no intention of explaining to me what my duties would be until after I accepted. I explained that my job is very demanding timewise and I was hesitant to make that type of commitment. They insisted that I take the calling, as they needed to announce in the meeting half an hour later. After the sacrament meeting, somebody simply told me to be at a certain place on Tuesday at 6 p.m. I remember her shocked expression when I said that I would not be able to make it due to my work schedule. Two or three weeks went by and I decided not to act on my calling until they gave me the description of my duties in writing, they did not appreciate that. I had no intentions of accepting assignments and duties they 'made up' as they went along.


During this period, I started becoming acquainted with some of their queer beliefs, which hardly makes the religion Christian.
The last straw was drawn when they expected me to offer my testimony. The missionaries had taught me that a person should create their own prayers, as opposed to repeating prayers as the catholics do, 'After all, wouldn't God could become bored after hearing the same set of words all the time?. I find it odd, however, that hearing 'this is the one true church', 'Joseph Smith is a prophet of God', or ' the book of Mormon is true' repeated by millions of member does not bore God. I believe these phrases are senseless, if one believes they are true, let him be a Mormon. If one does not believe they are true, let him not be a Mormon. Simple as that. That Sunday, however, after a few members had recited their chorus line, it appeared everybody's eyes were on me. I did not get up. Immediately following the closing prayer, the missionary came to shake my hand and said, very loudly: 'we need our friend here needs to give her testimony'. I decided not to come back.


I was absent from church on Sunday for two weeks, a few members called me saying they were 'concerned'. That is actually a code word. They were simply coercing me into coming to church. I was naive enough to think they were worried about my health and reassured them I was in good health. On the third Sunday, I was out of town. They called and left messages on my answering machine. I came back home very late and did not return any calls. The next day, three officials from the church came to my place of work, but visitors must state the reason for their visit and personal visitors are not allowed at my work place. By that evening, they had called one of my bosses because 'they were concerned'. I was furious, I had never known such maniacs.

I called the bishop and told him I was not returning to church, but other members continue to call me or come to my home.

I will now try to outline some of their arguments and my attitude towards them:

Argument 1: Aren't you going to honour the covenant made with God to keep the Sabbath?

Well, I was not aware I made this covenant, so it is not valid. Those maniacs wanted to bring the sacrament to my house. I refused.

Argument 2: You have to accept all the precepts of our theology, there are many things no one understands. If you still do not understand, pray about it.

I don't have a problem with anyone's theology. I believe people get used to the doctrine they are taught, and convince themselves they believe it(--possibly by praying). It just happens that I do not believe God is an alien living in Kolob, that people may become gods, that I owe obedience to any church authority, finally, not being a racist, I do not believe blacks or Amerindians became dark through punishment by God.

Argument 3: This is the only true church.

This is hardly Mormonism's claim to fame. So say catholics, seventh-day adventists, moonies, etc...

Argument 4: The church does a lot of good to many people.

So does UNICEF, the Red Cross and countless other religious charities.

Argument 5: We love you and we want you.

So do my kittens.

I will soon ask them to drop my name from their list

A LETTER TO THE MORMON PRESIDENT REQUESTING A NAME TO BE REMOVED

A letter to the Mormon President requesting a name to be removed

DANIEL EVANS

Nov. 15, 1993

Ezra Taft Benson, PresidentThe Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints

Dear President Benson:
This letter is to inform you that I wish to be removed permanently from membership in, and the rolls of, the Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints). I request that this be done immediately. This is not an action that I take lightly, but it is something I do gladly, as I have found great joy, peace and freedom in my Lord Jesus Christ. I wish the members of the Mormon church well, and will always think of them as fine, upstanding, and loving people. I was an earnest and faithful Mormon for many years. I got married in the Temple, believed in the Church wholeheartedly, and sacrificed for it. The following are a few of my reasons for leaving the Mormon Church. I know they will not be easy for you to read, but please try to do so with an open mind.


I am concerned about discrepancies between what the Church teaches, and the teachings of the Bible. The Mormon church teaches that there are many Gods. The Bible teaches that there is one only. Joseph Smith taught "that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father," and that "you may suppose that He had a Father also." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith) Orson Pratt said, "If we should take a million worlds like this and number their particles, we should find that there are more Gods than there are particles of matter in those worlds." (Journal of Discourses, vol.2, page 345) The Bible teaches throughout it's pages of there being only one God.

Even the Book of Mormon teaches monotheism:
"And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea there is a true and living God. Now, Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No." Alma 11:26-30
"...I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end." 3 Nephi 9:18
"so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD and there is no other." Isaiah 45:6
" ...I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me." Isaiah 46:9
"...Is there any God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any." Isaiah 44:8
"Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein..." Nehemiah 9:6
The God who made the universe says he is LORD alone. I believe he leaves no room for doubt. If God had a father wouldn't he know of him? If there really were other Gods why is there no mention of them in the Book of Mormon or the Bible? The message God sends time and time again is that he is the only God.


The Mormon Church teaches heretically that man can become a God, and that God was once a man. Joseph Smith taught, "First God himself who sits enthroned in yonder heavens, is a man like unto one of yourselves, that is the great secret.... I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined that God was God from all eternity.... God himself; the Father of us all dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did,... You have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves;...No man can learn you more than what I have told you." This teaching is one of the root evils of Mormonism. Think about it- isn't this very idea, that man can work his way up to being a God, a major tenant of humanism and new age belief? Think about it again- where is the first place in the Bible that one finds the idea of a man becoming like God? It was whispered by the serpent to Eve; saying eat of the apple and "...ye shall be as gods..."(Genesis 3:5) This was not whispered as a good thing, but as an enticement by the father of lies himself! The Bible does not teach about a changing God who once was a man, once died, and once sinned. It does not teach that a man can become a God. It teaches exactly the opposite.

Again the Book of Mormon is in agreement:
"For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity." Moroni 8:18
"For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting,.." Moroni 7:22
"Behold I say unto you, he that denieth these things knoweth not the gospel of Christ; yea, he has not read the scriptures; if so, he does not understand them.


For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing?" Mormon 9:8,9
"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." Hebrews 13:8
"(God has)...no variableness, neither shadow of turning." James 1:17
" ...I am God, and not man..." Hosea 11:9
"Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isaiah 44:6
"God is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind..." Numbers 23:19
"O LORD are you not from everlasting?..." Habakkuk 1:12
"Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God." Psalms 90:2
"I the LORD do not change..." Malachi 3:6
"Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD...before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." Isaiah 43:10


This is clearly the first and last God. We have not "imagined" that God was God from all eternity, the Bible says so definitively. The Bible leaves no room for other "Gods" to be formed. It emphatically states throughout its pages that God has always existed as God and has never changed. How could the Bible have made it more clear? God is God alone, and there never were, nor will there ever be any others. Also see Mosiah 3:5, Alma 11:39, Psalms 41:13, 93:2, 103:17, Proverbs 8:23, Revelation 1:8. It is important to note that when you study one of these passages in Hebrew, the case is made even more unambiguous. In Isaiah 43:10 for example, the word used for God is El meaning " mighty one". Once this is understood, it is obvious that the scripture is not talking about idols per Se, but about Gods. Thus read the scripture would say: "... Before me there were no 'mighty ones' formed, neither shall there be after me."

The Mormon church does not understand grace, faith or salvation, and in fact teaches doctrine turned 180 degrees from the Biblical truth. The Mormon church teaches that " There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come...(Sermon by Brigham Young given Sept. 21, 1856, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp.53-54) It teaches a works oriented salvation that "puts the cart before the horse" in its approach. It denies the power of Christ and exalts the pride of man. I learned as a Mormon to try to "make myself perfect". I learned that I needed to follow a laundry list of do's and don'ts. I believed that I needed to follow a highly organized system of men placed between me and my maker to obtain God's forgiveness or work within his authority. I learned that these men had control in my life, and that when one of them in authority spoke I was to take it as having come from the mouth of the LORD. When my ears were open enough for me to really understand the New Testament I understood that you had lied to me.


Men are sinners- born into it- and cannot make themselves perfect. The Bible teaches that men are accepted by Christ in their sins, that he loves them, and takes them how they are. It teaches that this is a result of faith in him. It says that though their nature still remains sinful, Christ changes them from the inside as a result of faith, but not as a result of their works. The Bible teaches that Christ's infinite atonement covers all sin of all men who believe in him. It teaches that the Old Testament order of having to have an intermediary between man and God is done away with, and that Christ is the only way to God. All through the New Testament the pattern of faith preceding an unwarranted action is set. Jesus never says anything like, "you've done very well in your keeping of the word of wisdom - therefore I'll heal you." But he frequently says things like, "Take heart, daughter...your faith has healed you." (Matthew 9:22) When a woman who "was a sinner" came to see Jesus, and washed his feet with her tears, he did not say, "That's a good start, now go and undo all the sins you've committed, clean up your life, clean up your thoughts, do some worthy work and when you are finished come back to me and I'll appoint some people to see about forgiving you." No, he very simply said, "Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace." You see, she was already forgiven. Nothing she could do could earn it, and she didn't have to; Jesus gave it to her freely because of her faith. Can't you see how simple and beautiful this is? Jesus has done this for me also and I weep when I think of it because I am so very grateful. I plead with you to let him take you just as you are too. Please see Matthew 8:10-13, 9:2, 9:29 and 15:28.

The Bible teaches plainly that we are saved by grace through faith. It teaches that no one will be saved by their good works. Truly, faith that produces no good works is a dead faith, but when there is a real faith it produces its work as a result of Christ and the changes he makes in the believer. The Bible is definitive in its argument for faith as being the ingredient for salvation:
"Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. But now a righteousness from God, apart from the law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." Romans 3:20-24
"THEREFORE BEING justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Romans 5:1
"What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works..." Romans 9:30- 32
"I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" Galatians 2:21
"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
It fits well within Mormonism's humanistic model that they have put the emphasis on becoming perfect. After all, they have put the emphasis on becoming a God. When we seek goodness through our works we try to say to Christ, "I know you couldn't pay the whole debt - here let me pay it too." We deny his power to accept us as what we are. We say, "hands off- I can change myself into what you ( I ) want." But the fact is that HE makes the changes in us through faith. The Bible teaches the simple truth on this matter: When we believe in Christ he sets us free. When God looks upon us in judgment he sees only an imperfect man, but one saved by faith in Jesus Christ. Please see Acts 15:8-11, 26:18, Romans 1:5, 4:1-10, 4:14-16, 5:7-9, 10:4, 10:9, 2 Corinthians 5:7, Galatians 2:15-16, 3:22-25, Philippians 3:7-9, Titus 2:11-12
The Book of Mormon is a largely plagiarized document with no historical, anthropological, ar archaeological basis in reality. The Mormon church claims that the Nephites had the Old Testament books which were written prior to the time they left Jerusalem (around 600 B.C.). Therefore it comes as no surprise that the Book of Mormon contains many quotations taken right from the Old Testament (over 18 chapters of Isaiah alone). What is surprising is that many of these passages were quoted word for word from the King James version of the Bible. What is more surprising still is that the Book of Mormon authors were able to quote from books written after 600 B.C. Let's think about this: How could Joseph Smith have translated exact word for word quotes from "reformed Egyptian" into King James style English? Why would these match word for word with the King James translation of the Bible which itself had been translated from Hebrew and Greek? The King James translators who unfortunately lacked the "Urim and Thummim" did very well to produce the exact translation Joseph Smith did! The Book of Mormon contains many examples of stories and ideas lifted from the Bible (see Alma 19 and John 11).


The Book of Mormon proves itself a forgery when it quotes from King James version New Testament verses word for word:
"...to be carnally-minded is death, and to be spiritually-minded is life..." 2 Nephi 9:39
"... to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life..." Romans 8:6
"...O wretched man that I am..." 2 Nephi 4:17
"O wretched man that I am..." Romans 7:24
"...steadfast and immovable, always abounding in good works..." Mosiah 5:15
"...steadfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work..." 1 Corinthians 15:58
"...seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things." Moroni 7:45
"...seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things." 1 Corinthians 13:5-7


There are many more examples of plagiarism in the Book of Mormon. One study found over four hundred. Remember, these are New Testament scriptures that the Nephites did not have. How could they have gotten into the Book of Mormon word for word? Not only does the Book of Mormon use the exact same wording (even unusual wording like "stinketh" found in Alma 19:5 and John 11:39) as the New Testament, but it frequently uses it in exactly the same order! Mark Twain, in his book Roughing It remarked that the Book of Mormon "seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New Testament." I think he hit the nail right on the head. The Book of Mormon condemns itself.

The Book of Mormon purports to be the record of ancient Jews who came to the new world. This being the case, where in its text is there evidence of Jewish religion and tradition such as Passover, Circumcision, any of the Jewish festivals, etc.? These things were very important to the people of that time and are mentioned frequently in the Bible. Why not in the Book of Mormon? Also, why would these Israelites have written their record in Egyptian? Lehi had lived all his life in the city of Jerusalem, where they only spoke the Hebrew language. The Jews hated the Egyptians, and even if he could have written in their language (highly unlikely) he certainly wouldn't have; The Jews were known to have an unusual love for their mother tongue. Also, is there any biological evidence connecting the American Indians with the Jews? There is none. In fact the genetic evidence suggests quite the opposite.
When a city, a sight of battle, person's name, or even a type of coin is written about in the Bible, there is archaeological evidence to support it. I have seen coins mentioned in the Bible with my own eyes, right here in Salem, Oregon. When the Bible talks of the city of Jericho - there is evidence to support that it existed; namely Jericho itself! The Bible states that Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, and an inscription has been found with the name of Pontius Pilate in theater excavations at Caesarea.


There are mountains of physical evidence to support biblical archaeology. Why is this not the case with the Book of Mormon? The Book of Mormon talks about names and places. It contains the story of entire civilizations, and their cities, their battles, their leaders names, their religion, even the value and names of some of their coins. In all this mass of civilization, where is even one single piece of anthropological evidence to support the claims of the Book of Mormon? There are no coins. There are no inscriptions of leaders names. There is no evidence of the huge battles mentioned in its text. There isn't even evidence of the cities mentioned in The Book of Mormon! Where are Zarahemla and Bountiful? There is plenty of anthropological evidence of the civilizations that really were present during Book of Mormon times. Unfortunately, none of this evidence even suggests a Christian civilization present in America. Many Mormon anthropologists have dedicated their lives to finding Book of Mormon archaeology, and the Mormon church has financed many expeditions and much research to prove its case. Still, there remains not one piece of evidence in support of the Book of Mormon. Why not? Because it simply is not there.

The Mormon Church's history, doctrine, and even scriptures have been changed many times to suit the present needs of its leadership. There have been many deliberate changes in the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, History of the Church, etc. The Church has made a deliberate effort to distort its own history, and keep its members in the dark. As a Mormon I learned about Joseph Smith's martyrdom. I learned that he went to his death "like a lamb to the slaughter." I was taught that he went humbly and without resistance just as Jesus did. Can you imagine what a shock it was to me to learn that he had in fact died in a gunfight, doing his level best to kill his attackers?

The following accounts from the History of the Church are given of Joseph Smith's death:
Immediately there was a little rustling at the outer door of the jail, and a cry of surrender, and also a discharge of three or four firearms followed instantly...Joseph sprang to his coat for his six-shooter, Hyrum for his single barrel....
When Hyrum fell, Joseph exclaimed, "Oh dear, brother Hyrum!" and opening the door a few inches he discharged his six shooter in the stairway (as stated before) , two or three barrels of which missed fire. (History of the Church, vol. 6, pp. 617- 18)


John Taylor, who was to become the third president of the Church, added his testimony concerning Joseph Smith's death:
He, however, instantly arose, and with a firm, quick step, and a determined expression of countenance, approached the door, and pulling the six-shooter left by Brother Whellock from his pocket, opened the door slightly, and snapped the pistol six successive times; only three of the barrels, however, were discharged. I afterwards understood that two or three were wounded by these discharges, two of whom, I am informed died. (History of the Church, vol. 7, pp.102-3)
This was not the Joseph Smith you had taught me about. He did not go like Jesus Christ, "who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not..." (1 Peter 2:23) No, Joseph Smith went out shooting. Why don't you teach the truth about this?


I learned as a Mormon that while the Bible was not reliable because it had been changed, (with later study I learned it was indeed reliable) the Book of Mormon was reliable and, "the most correct of any book on earth." Why then has it been changed over three thousand times? Many of these changes are grammatical, or spelling errors, but this book was supposed to have been translated directly by the power of God. I remember the missionaries asking me how a boy could have written such a book without mistakes, without to help of God. Well, the first editions of the Book of Mormon are chock full of mistakes! All one has to do to prove it to themselves is compare. My wife Stacey, was surprised when she looked up 2 Nephi 30:6 in a copy of The Book of Mormon that her grandmother had given her, and then in a newer copy of mine, and found that it had been changed. There is no footnote to explain why, no asterisk, or anything else. At the time of this change the church had been embarrassed by their teaching that the Indians who received the Gospel would turn white! Stacey's edition reads, "...and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people." My edition reads, "...save they shall be a pure and delightsome people." This is just a recent change. There are other important doctrinal changes in the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants. For more information see The Changing World of Mormonism by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, Moody Press, Chicago.

Where are those good old doctrines of the early Mormon Church like Blood atonement, and the Adam-God doctrine? How come they aren't taught with the zeal that the "prophets" had for them? As a Mormon I knew nothing about things like Blood atonement. You taught me that a prophet would never lead his people astray. That God would prohibit it.

Well, lets look at what the "Prophet" Brigham Young taught:
There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come, and if they had their eyes open to their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground, that the smoke thereof might ascend to heaven as an offering for their sins; and the smoking incense would atone for their sins... (Sermon by Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp.53-54; also published in the Desseret News, Oct. 1, 1856, p.235 )


J.M. Grant, a member of the first presidency under Brigham Young, followed up on this idea:
...there are men and women that I would advise to go to the President immediately, and ask him to appoint a committee to attend to their case; and then let a place be selected, and let that committee shed their blood. (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, pp.49-50)


Brigham young proposed this situation in which Blood atonement might occur. As you read it think to yourself if it in any way relates to the Savior of love and compassion written about in the Bible. The "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" Savior. The Savior who is powerful enough to save all men from all sin, and paid the ultimate price to do so for you. (1 John 1:7-9)
Let me suppose a case. Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands...
There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it... (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p.247)


Is this true? If we are to atone for our own sins, then Jesus died for nothing! What is our blood worth to God? What good does it do for our salvation? If it is true, then why isn't the Mormon church teaching and practicing "God's doctrine" of blood atonement today? No, the Bible totally repudiates this heretical teaching of blood atonement, and Brigham Young led his people astray. One need only read it to find out.

Brigham Young also taught that, "When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL, the Arch-angel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about whom holy men have written and spoken - HE is our Father and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, pp. 50-51)
Brigham Young reaffirmed this doctrine and taught it many times. It is even found in the journals of the Mormons of that time. If this "Prophet" didn't lead people astray, then why does the church teach that this is a false doctrine today?


There are those who believe, or say they believe, that Adam is our father and our God,... The devil keeps this heresy alive... It is contrary to the plan of salvation...and anyone who has received the temple endowment and who yet believes the Adam-God theory does not deserve to be saved." (Apostle Bruce R. McConkie, talk given at the BYU Marriot Center on June 1, 1980)
Okay, who's lying? The "Prophets" and "Apostles" of Brigham Young's time, or the "Prophets" and "Apostles" of today?


I was married to Stacey in the Seattle, Washington temple on May 3, 1984. I attended that temple with the belief that I would be instructed in sacred and ancient ceremonies, right from the Lord himself. As was expected of me, I obediently promised to slit my throat etc., rather than reveal the secrets of the temple. I was very surprised to learn in 1989 from a Mormon who wanted me to "come back to the temple, because I would like it better now" that the Lord had changed his mind yet again, and redone his sacred temple ceremony. Even as a Mormon who did not yet understand that the temple ceremony is really a Masonic ceremony copied word for word, I knew that something was wrong! Why would God just suddenly change his mind about his own "sacred ceremony", eliminating the "penalties" and other sacred portions? Maybe God is rather a "politically correct" God. When confronted with opposition on the issue of polygamy, he simply changes his stance on it. When confronted with Civil Rights he ignores his "prophet" who said, "If there was one drop of Negro blood" a black man could never hold the Priesthood, and caves in under the pressure. When people like me are made uncomfortable with the temples' bloody oaths, God just rewrites the program. How convenient for the leadership of the Mormon Church to have such a changeable, malleable, saleable God. The God of the Bible is a much different God. He doesn't change his mind. He doesn't change. I hope you get to know him. (John 17:3)

In closing I wish to tell you my greatest reason for leaving the Mormon Church. It is in finding Jesus Christ. He also found me. He pulled me toward him and made me ready to listen. I tell you, reader of this letter, that he will do the same for you. I pray this for you. It will be my great joy to bring his message to all the people (including Mormons) I can. The Gospel is simply that Christ lived, was crucified for each and every one of every man's sins, and was resurrected on the third day. (1 Corinthians 15:1-8, Galatians 1:8-9) Those who take away from this Gospel; who mock Christ's suffering on the cross by saying that it was not sufficient for all men and all sin; and those who would add to this Gospel legalism, secret (not sacred) ceremonies and signs as condition for salvation are terribly wrong. They are making a literally hellish mistake. Jesus is my hope and my joy. I love him with all my heart, and am glad to let him make of my life what he wants. This is the truth, and I leave it with you in His name.

Thank you,

Dan Evans

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